I know, but it’s a nice dream.
Besides, I have a feeling that our Canadian neighbors are hiding some fierceness behind their polite exteriors. 
They won’t be pushovers like Trump might think.
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I think losing WWI had a lot to do with it, plus the economic decimation of the paying of war debts. One-hundred-and-thirty-two billion gold marks is a lot to pay in reparations, not to mention the damage to German pride. They thought it would only take six weeks to win the war. So, being dragged through four years of literal mud, being defeated by lesser peoples - especially the French, and not being able to keep the resource-rich Alsace-Lorraine - really messed with their heads, not to mention their Kaiser (a piece of work all on his own).
You get that far down, you’re liable to listen to anyone who makes it sound like you can not only get back up, but get to the top, and stay there.
No one got very excited about Trump saying he wanted to be a war criminal… Everyone just accepted it. What’s your analysis of the difference?
Well there ya go.
The dream of a race war lives on.
The dream of a gender/class/race/religious creed/choice of regular or decaf war will always be there.
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To ensure this one is even more hateful than the last?
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Good point. Who would provide the best lookalike for a Republican candidate?
I’m sure at least some people got excited about it.
Ronald Reagan, even though the real Reagan is far too liberal for today’s Republicans.
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You beat me to it. A Ronald Reagan retrofitted with an Evangelical Firebrand mod, and with the intolerance indexes cranked up to Jerry Falwell levels.
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But, but… Lately, every time I turn around someone is sagely mentioning that Lincoln was a Republican! Surely that means they would have no problem with him!
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No states seceding, since this is not a state-vs-state conflict like slavery but a cultural and economic one where elements of both sides are in every state to one proportion or another.
Small numbers of intellectuals and liberals with the means or freedom to do so will migrate temporarily to Canada and Europe full-or part-time during his first term, but that will be more of an attempt to avoid the direct fallout of what he does to the domestic economy.
There will be constant left-wing demonstrations against whatever idiocy he comes up with, and after a time they’ll be suppressed violently, with the police or counter-demonstrators supplying the rioting element.
I’m a lot more worried about the more likely scenario: he loses, claims the election was fixed, and stirs up his Know-Nothing followers to violent “resistance” to Clinton (who’ll also be obstructed within government by the GOP).
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I think his supporters did indeed cheer his promise to “smash” Daesh, because they are for that. Trump is talking out both sides of his mouth, appealing to both the isolationists and the war mongers. His supporters get excited about almost everything he says, the more racist and sexist, the better.
That’s my analysis.
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There has been much more excitement about groping boasts than mass slaughter boasts. As long as Trump stuck to proposing war crimes, he was apparently OK with a lot of people. Or they found other things to criticize. Again I,m curious as to people’s analysis of the difference.
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I’m mostly talking about Trump’s critics and what is most important to them. Apparently warmongering (with a real prospect of carrying it out) is not, generally speaking.
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Liberals and progressives were never OK with his proposing war crimes. The excitement occurs because this happens to be the straw the breaks the camel’s back for a lot of his supporters and some undecided voters. They’re cool when the assaults are aimed at various Others, but when it’s aimed at white women who aren’t necessarily liberals and who could be their own wives or daughters (which some of them additionally regard as chattel) then it’s gone too far for some of them.
If this (and not all the other horrible things he’s said and done) is what it takes for voters to start abandoning him so we’re spared his Presidency then that’s what his opponents and critics are going to drum up. That doesn’t mean they’re cool with either Clinton’s or her opponent’s warhawk statements.
Put another way, when the U.S. government put Al Capone in Alcatraz for tax evasion it didn’t mean they were OK with all the murders he committed and orchestrated.
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But it’s important to remember that McCain and Romney both graciously CONCEDED their defeats. They didn’t insist that an Obama win would only be possible through massive electoral fraud or that Obama should be in prison or that if the GOP didn’t take the White House a violent revolution might be necessary.
I hope this election will conclude peacefully but I won’t be surprised if some Trump supporters decide to do something violent and stupid.
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I get it now. Groping is the straw that broke the camel’s back, but not having a bloodlust to use nukes, and not being ISIS’ top recruiter.
I have no idea why that is. I think it’s because progressives are appalled by all of it, Democrats are able to hand-wave away all but the most extreme war crime talk, and Republicans don’t want to look weak by opposing war crimes. Pussyghazi is something everyone except his sycophants can call him out for, albeit for different reasons.
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One of the biggest achievements of the Right has been to force moderates to support pointless wars in order not to look “weak”. An awful lot of the human race still functions on “Ugg got biggest club! Ugg strong leader!”
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