NYTimes: Trump is dangerous, but Biden is old

What outside observers might be missing is that this Joe Biden is a better president than he would have been 10 years ago and vastly better than he would have been 20 years ago. He sets his own ego aside, surrounds himself with a diverse group of truly expert advisors, and listens to them.

The result has been the most progressive presidential term in over a half century.

Kinda makes being picky about his age sorta gross, don’t you think?

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Biden mistakenly said “Putin” instead of “Zelensky”, but for some reason mixing up names is not disqualifying when Trump does it.

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Any inside observer who’s paying any attention at all is also aware of all that, with the addition of the age gap between Trump and Biden being a whole three years. Which really makes the entire issue of age irrelevant when comparing them, and makes it even more baffling that there’s anyone on the left who might not vote against the convicted felon and fascist.

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They either cheat and win like you said or getting close enough and have the current POS SCOTUS throw the election their way just like Bush v. Gore.

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person. woman. man. camera. tv.

i mean, there’s just no way biden can top that.

( oto, if ■■■■■’s elected he’ll be the oldest president in history. you would think that’d rate some headlines. 47 at least. )

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Yes but when I brought this point up with my daughter, she said “Biden is supposed to be competent. Everyone has known for years that Trump is useless.”

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“Everyone knows Trump is useless” is why nothing he says or does will disqualify him from becoming President. All the evidence of his unfitness for office is “priced in” and therefore irrelevant to the question of whether he is fit to hold office.

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There has to be some sort of Bayesian Paradox fallacy or something.

For those who don’t know, Bayesian reasoning is basically that information means more if it’s surprising. If you flip a coin, and it’s giving you a run of straight heads, then when you get a tails then it’s surprising, which means the information value of that flip is higher than that of all the heads, which means you’ll take more notice of it. People tend to take notice of surprising information, of changes in state.

The thing is, most of the tosses were heads. The likelihood based on previous performance is that the coin is rigged and the next toss will also be heads.

Thus here: Trump is a cruel, selfish, narcissistic, incurious illiterate scumbag with no redeeming qualities. That hasn’t changed. That won’t change.

Biden is reported to have gotten some words mixed up when under stress, and was sick that time on TV. That appears to be new information to anyone who hasn’t been paying attention (which to a first approximation is basically “everyone”, apparently), and so it’s sticking in their minds as new and therefore more meaningful information than Trump being a stupid selfish monster again.

Which doesn’t change that Trump’s a monster who must be kept away from power at all costs. But the popular consciousness has been saturated on that front, and all attention has fixed on the new shiny thing which is being continually dangled in front of it.

TL;DR: Human brains are really, really, really bad at logical reasoning.

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Since you asked, THE VOTERS. The choice couldn’t be clearer. If Donald Trump is elected again, the fault lies 100% with A) the voters who voted for Trump and B) the Democratic voters who didn’t do anything to help defeat Trump. Didn’t volunteer. Didn’t canvass. Didn’t make calls. Didn’t drive people to the polls. Didn’t talk to their persuadable friends. Didn’t donate. It’s not enough to post memes and whine about how bad Trump is on social media. That does nothing. Democracy is not a spectator sport. The United States we know will live or die with this election, and its survival is on each and all of us.

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A vote for Biden is a vote for Pete Buttigieg.

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and/or a relatively few number of voters in a handful of states.

■■■■■ lost the popular vote before, and he’ll lose it again without a doubt. whether he’ll be elected will come down to things like voting day not being a holiday. who’s allowed to use early voting. how far people have to drive. how many “ballot boxes” there are. long lines. voter ids. voter intimidation. and il/legal purges of voter roles, voter challenges, and the like

beyond the presidency, congressional and state level races matter too. and those have the added challenge of state level gerrymandering

this isn’t - and has never been - a simple “blame the voters” issue

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At least Michigan will not be to blame. We have automatic voter registration when you apply for a driver’s license or state ID, early voting, soooo many drop-off ballot boxes, no-reason absentee ballots and, of course, the normal election day. Oh, and I nearly forgot our un-Gerrymandered districts for every level of state and federal office!

We, the people of Michigan, did this for ourselves with ballot initiatives, and all of the above is now in our state’s constitution. Please copy us Gerrymandered states, we really, really want you to. :+1:

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Texas is in a bit of a catch-22. Gerrymandering all to hell and the Texas Constitution provides one mechanism for amending the state’s constitution—legislatively referred constitutional amendments. So our gerrymandered legislature has to vote by 2/3 to put an amendment on the ballot. Only then can voters have a say, though it requires a simple majority vote (50% plus 1).
Texas law doesn’t allow any other kind of referendum.
This is immensely frustrating.

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That is the worst considering the current SCOTUS. The Texas voting maps should be unconstitutional under the Voting Rights act, but you know, fucking SCOTUS. Another situation that can only be fixed by re-electing Biden and winning back the House plus a firm majority in the Senate. :rage:

Ohio, though, lookin’ at you sideways right now. :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

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And for the ones whose votes were discounted, their registration challenged, their polling places hidden or made inaccessible, whose ID is deemed unacceptable, or any of the zillion and one other ways the fascists suppress the vote of those they deem “unworthy?” Most studies have suggested that TX would be at the very least purple if the voting landscape was anywhere close to level. FL would probably be blue. Ignoring this fact and just placing blame on Dems is lazy at best.

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Anthony Anderson Lol GIF by ABC Network

And also, the GOP CHOOSE to be a fascist party. But no one EVER wants to hold those assholes accountable for that shit.

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I respectfully disagree. Yes, voter suppression is a problem, but apathy is a much bigger one. When the largest percentage of eligible voters in a Presidential election was in 2020, and that percentage was only 66%, that’s not all due to suppression. I’m asserting that those of us in that 66% who care about this country need to do everything we can to get those who don’t vote, including helping those who are being disenfranchised, to vote. Educate, exhort, register, drive people to the polls – whatever it takes. Everyone can do something. If you live in a state with draconian voting rules, find ways to work around those rules and help others. We cannot throw up our hands and say “the system is rigged. Whatcha gonna do?” We’ve got to act. It worked here in Georgia the last few cycles. It could work in NC, FL, SC, TX and elsewhere.

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Voter turnout and suppression are closely inter-related, though. The states that make it easiest to vote have the highest voter turnout. Even then, states with high voter turnout like Oregon and Washington still suffer a degree of apathy in general elections because, with the electoral college, their votes don’t really impact the presidential election results.

The states with the most suppression tend to also have the lowest turnout. Beyond just direct suppression, there’s also a feeling of helplessness when your vote doesn’t count for anything.

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i definitely didn’t say that. and i do agree that people have to work to change things. at the same time, saying it’s only the fault of voters is victim blaming.

they are powerful interests with deep pockets directly working to subvert voter power. especially the votes of people of color. there’s just no way around that fact

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