Originally published at: Oklahoma parents sue to block State Superintendent's $3m plan to have kids study Trump Bible in class - Boing Boing
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What the actual fuck
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This was probably not smart, if you want it to survive a challenge that may go all the way to SCOTUS. Alito, Thomas, Barrett, Kavanaugh, Gorsuch, and Roberts are all Catholic. Well…Gorsuch was raised Catholic, and is currently Anglican. Regardless, they may be ok with Bibles in school, but I doubt they’ll be ok with limiting it to a Protestant Bible.
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I hear ya but they are there because of fundamentalist Protestant money.
I suspect that as long as the lesson says “thou shalt not permit women bodily autonomy” they’ll be happy enough.
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He appears to have learnt nothing from someone’s breaking his nose for him. Shame. Coulda saved a lot of hassle for a lot of people.
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“Fighting leftist indoctrination” is apparently the same in their minds as “Promoting Rightist indoctrination.”
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The Founding Fathers were all too aware of the recent history of reformation/counter reformation when they decided on the separation of church and state. There is no bad idea that has failed in the past that some is not willing to try it again~
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Yeah… thing is, I’m not adverse to students having some theology in their education. Not in the Sunday school, let’s tone down these stories for kids and indoctrinate them kind of way, but in the - here are these various and different religions, what they believe, what their history is, etc. Whether some like it or not, religion is still a big part of many people’s lives, and understanding religions of the world seems critical to living within it and understand one’s neighbors who might believe very different things.
of course, this is NOT that… it’s like the Sunday school variety, but… more awful, cause Trump bible.
I’m glad the parents are suing, because it’s so patently unconstitutional, that even THIS court should have a hard time signing off on it. But we’ll see.
Exactly. If the Federalist society thought that they were going to impose Catholicism on America, they never would have passed muster. There is certainly a right wing Catholic movement that works alongside the right wing protestants, but frankly, Catholics are more likely to be targeted by the right, not put in positions of power without some sort of checks on them or guarantees that they won’t upset the protestant order of things.
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Orange is the New Bible is not going into my Netflix watchlist.
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In this context you’d have to be a pretty terrible person not to be cheering for the plaintiffs. Walter’s plan is straight in the ‘so overtly sectarian it doesn’t look like they are even going for a shabby fig leaf to try to pass constitutional scrutiny; plus a particularly expensive textbook from someone who makes Pearson look classy’ bucket; but it’s a trifle unfortunate to see an argument being advanced that would look equally at home made against an actually respectable comparative religion thing; or some how-the-sausage-was-made content in basically any western history course from late classical to present day.
“As parents, my husband and I have sole responsibility to decide how and when our children learn about the Bible and religious teachings,” “It is not the role of any politician or public school official to intervene in these personal matters.”
Is itself a pretty overtly sectarian take on what is allowable as curriculum; and one that would effectively require an unconstitutional state recognition of specific texts and practices as being forbidden for profane educational purposes; while others are just ‘mythology’, so that’s fine.
Hopefully that’s just rhetorical flourish and the substance of the complaint is more measured; it’s not like there’s any need to pad things out when the proposal is this abjectly bad.
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Are they still going to have Netflix after the Butlerian Jihad?
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A very ironic twist on this theme locally is that the public schools are now going all in on the Christian values and all others are evil route, while the Christian schools, at least the bigger ones, actually do have pretty thorough comparative religion classes. These were the first things that our newly elected MAGAt school board axed. There is an argument to be made that the public schools are now a more conservative Nat-C education than the Chistian schools are. It’s a very weird thing, man.
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here you go: A landmark event: the complete Hebrew Bible in the award-winning translation that delivers the stunning literary power of the original.
https://www.amazon.com/Hebrew-Bible-Translation-Commentary-Three/dp/0393292495
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I still don’t understand how the courts haven’t punted this law off a cliff. I guess it is slowing moving through the courts? IIRC the ACLU and others have filed challenges.
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same idiots are probably vocal about anti sharia law too…
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It’s almost as if not of these MAGA idiots have ever read the fucking constitution of the United States of America.
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The haven’t realised that if they force their Bible on us then we’ll teach the Social Gospel and Christian Socialism. If they really want to fuck around, we’ll throw in some Christian Anarchism too.
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Indoctrination is fine, so long as it’s a Bible and not a Social Studies textbook, huh? At least the kids will learn what hypocrisy is.
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Require the Bible’s to be made/printed in the USA. Trump won’t get a cent.
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