Correction - it wasn’t even 1 month ago:
Thread with many data points in one place, it’s a hell of an impact to see it that way
Thanks for answering. I used to live near there, while it was still operational, but have lived on the south side for so long now that I had no idea it was closed and left abandoned for two decades! That is close enough to desirable neighborhoods that I’m astonished they haven’t done something with the property in all that time. In fact, one of my children was born at Ravenswood Hospital, not too far away, which was closed more recently and has already been knocked down and turned into a private school.
This is the kind of shit that concerns me. I know some folks at Battelle, and they are amazing. Extremely expert and professional. So I would assume that anything they put out would be solid.
However, this system uses vaporous hydrogen peroxide. I don’t doubt it’s effectiveness against COVID-19 - it kicks ass. But the only study that I know of that looked at mask decontamination determined that vaporous H2O2 compromises the filtering ability of the mask. It increases the resistance to air flow, which means more air is bypassing the mask.
Then there’s the quotes from the article.
Earlier Sunday, the FDA only approved limited use of the technology at 10,000 surgical masks in the state a day, which was met by criticism from DeWine.
In a press conference on Sunday, DeWine said President Donald Trump assured him that the approval would be handled quickly.
“I want to thank President Trump for his leadership and Dr. Hahn of the FDA for approving the use of this life-saving technology that Battelle has developed,” said DeWine in a statement. “This will not only help Ohio’s healthcare workers on the front lines of the COVID-19 crisis, but Battelle will also be helping health care workers in hot spots throughout the country including New York and Washington state.”
I do hope it works well, because being able to reprocess 80,000 masks a day in New York and Washington would be a game-changer. But I worry whenever favors are pulled to get something through this fast.
Edgewater is now a luxury apartment development
The last I heard there was some rezoning of the block to make different use possible, but I don’t know what the status is. I just checked on Google street view, around half the building was still there last summer but it looked like they were working on it.
The last owner – the one under whom it went bust – was busted himself for fraud, and sent to jail. They should think about this for the guy in Philly.
Thanks for the link! I have some reading to do…
ETA: Well, that’s definitely encouraging. No surprise Battelle did extensive functional testing. That’s going to be a big deal when NYC gets one of these.
This fucking company. First, they tell the workers to keep working, because the owner’s wife had a “vision from God”. Then, under closure orders, they fire everybody via email. Now this:
This is on top of their antiquities smuggling, medication denying and fuck knows what else.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/23/health/coronavirus-nurses-inside-washington-care-home/index.html
Updated 10:19 PM ET, Mon March 23, 2020
Kirkland, Washington (CNN)The veteran registered nurse started her own mental checklist: cough, rapid breathing and the red eyes – all the sickest patients seemed to have the red eyes.
For Chelsey Earnest it was the eyes that became the single most important sign as she and other staff at the Life Care Center in Kirkland, Washington, struggled with the new coronavirus that was sweeping the nursing home even before it became feared across the country.
“It’s something that I witnessed in all of them (the patients). They have, like … allergy eyes. The white part of the eye is not red. It’s more like they have red eye shadow on the outside of their eyes,” Earnest said.
“We’ve had patients that just had the red eyes as the only symptom that we saw and go to the hospital and pass away,” she said.
“I’ve even had the disaster medical control physician say, ‘Do they have the red eyes?’ And I will say yes. And he’ll say, ‘I’ll find you a bed.’ It’s just something about this, the way that it affects these patients.”
It’s like the list of symptoms for this disease are always changing. Red eyes (I have those, it’s allergy season), sore throat, fever, dry unproductive cough (again, allergy season), hyperventilation, pneumonia, some people have diarrhea, 30% of people report losing their sense of taste and smell… this is a crazy disease. I’ve had all but the last three symptoms in varying degrees within the last six weeks… toward mid-late February, I had many of them at the same time, but of course, it was cold/flu season.
One of the major things that gets me about this disease is the uncertainty…
They literally have 100-200K as the best case guess and 2M as their worst case guess, and their data tracking shows the predicted trend splitting the difference. Of course he is now spinning these literally unthinkable numbers as having done a good job, just wait for his excuse when we look back on 500,000 dead and he says “we heard some big numbers, 2… 3… 6 million dead but my actions saved 5 million people. Most people would call that heroic, how many presidents have personally saved 5 million people? More than!”
I know I’ve bought sweet breads out of a cooler on a Sunday morning.
Probably not a lot of exotic wild animal meat, though.
Except that the fact that the slaughtering isn’t happening right next to people does make it way less likely that people will get some weird zoonotic disease.
The issue is not even so much contact with bats, or eating weird stuff. It’s thought that the disease didn’t necessarily come to us directly.
Like avian flus come to us when a pig is infected with avian flu and human flu at the same time, and then a human catches the new flu from the pig.
Having all these live wild animals in close proximity to one another and being slaughtered near humans creates ideal conditions for that kind of thing to happen.
Yah, you can get tularemia from hunting wild rabbits, too. Neither of those is particularly contagious.
The issue here is that SARS came from a wet market in China, in an extremely similar fashion to what happened with covid, twenty years ago, and despite that very close call, they didn’t stop doing it, and now this has happened, and they still haven’t stopped doing it. It’s not about feeling superior, it’s about they need to fucking stop.
Nah, that’s Calvinball Donaldball at its finest.
Well, I clicked “Like”…but I don’t like you spoiling Calvinball with the image of Donald 
