There is no cure, just supportive care until the bodyās own immune system takes care of the virus. Infants and children are not seeming to be as badly affected, although there have been a very few deaths in this population. But yes, overall, the treatment is the same: fluids, rest, supportive care as needed.
Ugh. I know itās really bad when you post something without comment right now.
Doc, do me a favour: tell your professional relations we donāt see them as heroes. āHeroā is a stupid concept, anyway. We see them as extremely dedicated professionals, who will put other peopleās lives before their own needs. And we will try to support them afterwards.
Iāll do that personally with a friend of mine. Mentioned her in the R u OK topic, I think? Sheās been off work taking care of her third child, prematurely born not a year ago. Sheās now weaning, and in contact with her hospital employer. She knows she will either infect her whole family, or has to self-quarantine until sheās immune. Sheāll go anyways when sheās called, and sheās sure to get the call. Thatās still not heroism, but dedication to a cause.
BTW, I am talking about Germany here. Have a look at our stats, our number of intensive care beds with ECO, and compare that with other countries. I canāt even begin to comprehend whatās going on in other countries in which I have personally experienced hospitals from the inside.
Oh FFS. Data-driven? People in hospitals arenāt equipped to deliver the data you want, and they have fucking better things to do in many cases. Also, your data collection will be shit anyways since I bet you donāt have the capacity to even understand data standardisation.
I LITERALLY looked at the ECDC webpage minutes ago, and compared to a week ago they again changed their variable names, but thankfully now at least offer CSV and JSON files. I will not even look at the US CDC data right now, please someone else do that lest I get a heart attack.
A new Fox TV series: Slumlord Healthcare
Sure thing, will go check nowā¦ Okay, says here they switched the data interchange format to PPT files so that the executives can follow along as well.
On the one hand she has to be concerned about her health and the health of her son. On the other, sheās probably enjoying the fact that sheās not going to have a weekly meeting with Boris hahaha
Why not? Whatās wrong with calling heroes āheroesā? I donāt think itās a stupid concept in this situation. Itās just one way of thanking healthcare works for putting themselves on the line for the sake of others. And usually for working fucking, heroically hard in the process, while not being recognized enough, as usual, for their service.
Iāve got a long ways to go to catch up on this thread, so apologies if this has already been said. I donāt think the bullet point about most of our work is not essential is either true, or a good point to try to make.
Thereās a lot of people out of work right now that arenāt essential in that, if this task isnāt done today, it wonāt hurt much. But a lot of those jobs are absolutely essential. Especially people who work in places where people socialize.
A better point might be that a lot of clearly essential work is being done by people who are not properly compensated or respected for it. That is still a massive failure.
Much more coronavirus testing could be carried out than currently is at the Helsinki [Finland] and Uusimaa hospital district (HUS), according to the districtās chief medical director, Markku MƤkijƤrvi.
My take? If A āheroā is somebody who just does what they do because it needs doing, I guess so. None of us signed up for this, none of us are looking to have action figures made of us, and for the most part we just want to do our jobs and then got home to our families without worrying that we are hurting them. We dont want to sacrifice ourselves or anything heroic like that. We just want to do our jobs and stay safe. But when we cant do both, we do our jobs anyway. Thing is, that is not being āheroic,ā IMHO, it is being abandoned as expendable. So the reason I object to the āheroā thing is that it makes it seem less awful that we have to do our jobs with piss poor protection. Just my take. YMMV.
Maybe Dr. Fauci can inject some facts into Fox News viewers? That would be true national service!
I think thereās some serious cultural disconnect here so please donāt take offense.
First of all, theyāre just doing their job. From the inside, it doesnāt feel heroic. At least thatās how Iād perceive it. To a medical worker, theyāre not going above and beyond, theyāre doing what they are paid for. Thatās not heroic. Maybe to you it is given the circumstances, but to many, itās not. No offense intended, seriously. Itās like a fireman rescuing a kidās cat out of a treeā¦ the fireman is that kidās hero, but to the fireman, itās a job well doneā¦ nothing heroic.
Second of all, are they being treated like heroes? I know people cheer them on everyday at 7pm, but to me, it seems hollow. Again, this is a cultural thing. For me, I showed my appreciation when I gave most of my N95 masks to a nursing acquaintance back when people were saying only people who had symptoms and health care workers should have wear masks. That felt like the least I could do.
Iād contribute to a fund that paid healthcare workers more if I could, but I donāt see that. If I could magic up more N95 masks or gowns or equipment, Iād do that to support them, but I canāt. If I were a counselor or therapist, Iād offer my services for free to support the psychological impact they are doubtless experiencing, heck maybe a government program should offer them that. All I see is āclap for them at 7pmā. If I were in their shoes, Iād almost find it insulting. People are clapping for me, but I canāt even speak up about the lack of PPE or the stress without risking my livelihood? To me, Iād find it almost painful.
I canāt determine from this story whether people who should be tested (people who have or had symptoms, people coming from high risk regions or environments) arenāt being tested, or simply that the health authority guidelines on who should be tested give a number that is below the current testing capacity. Unless you are aiming for a complete identify-and-isolate policy (as I think Iceland is), the usual thought is that there is no point in, for example, wasting an antigen test on someone with no symptoms, as they will probably come up come up negative but possibly catch the disease the next day.
So many more ships out there becoming floating morgues. Historians will have a hard time believing this was realā¦
Thanks for weighing in on the heroism question doc, it certainly explains why you donāt consider the life-risking efforts of workers like yourself heroic.
Even though you may not like it, I still think you are heroic, not only for continuing to help and even save others while being provided woefully piss poor protection, but also for taking the extra time to keep us here so well informed. Iām sorry if that makes it seem less awful to you that you as a worker have such piss poor protection. It doesnāt make it seem that way to me.
