Ontario's low-budget Trump-alike wants to eliminate sedation for people getting colonoscopies

Well, if he’s going to do away with sedation, why not cut costs further and eliminate the lube also? And as stated earlier, he can go first.

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Signed it.

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Yep, because will not have needed colonoscopies, and will end up having to have much more expensive treatment for colon cancer that wasn’t caught earlier. And dying of course, but Dougie doesn’t care about that.

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As someone who came out of sedation during a colonoscopy due to pain (nothing like intense pain to sharpen you up) ford can go have blood filled diarrhea for multiple years on end.

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Strangely, the right wing parties of personal responsibility don’t believe in the responsibility of investing in long term cost savings. They are all about feeling good in the present, like drug addicts.

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I had sedation during a colonoscopy, and still had pain, so it’s not that uncommon, so I dread to think what it would be like without the good drugs.

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You might want to review your anatomy.
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You might also want to have some consideration for people with colitis, diverticulitis, Crohn’s disease, colon cancer, and other illnesses, and the aftereffects of same (scarring, narrowing, and so on), for whom getting a colonoscope is a wee more painful than you are so lucky to experience. In other words, don’t be such a dork.

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I dont get this…how was it possible for him to get elected in the first place?!? I mean, yes “sippenhaft” and all that is bad, but wasnt it clear from the beginning that he is mostly just a clone of his brother in every way? how could people forget that fast?

this is all so fucked up.

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We don’t have any sedation here in Japan and I personally found it agony. Sedation sounds great

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Due to unfortunate circumstances, I have to get scoped every 3 months. After choosing to do it without anesthesia once (I am a total nerd and wanted to watch the video feed) I can testify to the unpleasantness of this thing. If there were no anesthesia, I am not entirely certain I could continue this process. In short, fuck this dude with a cactus. Without anesthesia. Twice.

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Conservative paper:

The Liberals were “tired” after so many years in power. Neither of the opposition parties was posed to take the election, so it probably would have resulted in a minority government. And then the leader of the PCs was taken out with a bodycheck into the boards, and they had to do a last minute party race before the election. Stephen Harper’s old team jumped behind Doug Ford with miraculous timing, and he managed to outlast enough other contenders that their votes went to him and he won on the final round. There were complaints about dodgy party memberships and voting, but no time before the election, and afterward it was moot.

The PC didn’t win with the overall voting, but with the Liberal-NDP splits, the PC were first past the post in enough ridings to win.

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you godda be shitting me…

this is so fucked up!

It’s a little bit of a derail, but: what’s that software?

Dougie is doing well. Yesterday I walked by a demo of high school students saying nasty things about educational funding. One of the more noticeable signs simply read “F*** Ford”.

A lot of younger students but I’d say quite a few will be voters next election.

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Except paramedics re always ready to sedate the patient, even for the less invasive CAT colonoscopy, where only a small cannula to pump CO2 is used.
And if people had problems before they get sedation beforehand.

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Speaking as an Englishman, I feel personally threatened by this. Then I remember Brexit.

I have had a colonoscopy, where they cut off some polyps, so minor surgery too. I was, like you, offered sedation, but did not have it. In general, the doctors prefer to have an awake patient, becasue they are easier to look after and can tell you if somethig is going wrong. And, like you, it all was a bit uncomfortable and weird, but the actual pain came afterwards from the trapped gass. And it is so clean and pink and shiny in there: not what I was expecting at all.

I have also had a gastroscopy without sedation for the same reason. That is going in the other end, so there is the choking reflex. That was worse than I was expecting. But, I am told, the same logic applies: if you can stay awake and in control, then it is more likely to go well.

So, if you are going to have this sort of thing, you should be offered sedation. If you are fit, the doctor may also suggest that you may be better off without. This is not “Dare You Ride The Analizer!!”, it is just the choice offered by a professional who is wanting to make people better. People vary, and they may advise others differently.

As for saving money, you will probably have the same people at hand for the process in case they are needed, and you take up the same bed. The money saved by not giving you the knockout drops is negligable. The patient’s choice is the key, and he wants to take that away. This guy has no argument. Just a twisted outlook, and a strange fascination with peoples’ bottoms.

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I’ve had four, family history of colon cancer. The first time they were supposed to give me some iv Valium, but due to a scheduling mistake, they didn’t. I was a little nervous, everyone at work kept telling me how painful it was. It wasn’t fun, but not that painful, and no lingering discomfort. No polyps, all’s well. Watching the monitor was fun, but they didn’t record it, the doc just took Polaroids of the screen.

I went back five years later, the new doc who insisted on sedation. I was a little wary due to the 10,000 to 1 chance of death. He just laughed and said they’ve never had a problem, I muttered "you haven’t done 10,000.)

But all three have gone fine, no problems found. I really think the prep is worse than the test.

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I wrote some software to archive and index news articles on Scientology, then spit it out in a variety of formats, like Mediawiki. The new version will work for other topics as well, and automate the process better. (As well as get the hell off of Windows.)

The general format is a fair-dealing quote of the first three paragraphs of the article, a link to the actual article, all the tags associated with it. e.g.:

The real annoyance is that every news site formats their articles differently, so parsing even something as simple as the article publish date requires a little one-off code.

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I thought the prep was far worse than the test too, but I’m in Ontario so they sedated me.

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