Pacific Northwest measles outbreak: "like taking a pail of gasoline and throwing a lighted match into it"

Roald Dahl’s daughter died after contracting measles.

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You know what has a much higher risk of febrile seizures? Measles. Anything at all has risks. No one is claiming vaccines are perfect. They are not 100% effective, and they are not 100% without side effects. Tbey are, however, very very effective (most in the 95%-97% range) and have minimal side effects. Read science, leave the conspiracy sites alone.

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Slightly long read, but pretty good breakdown. She does not go into the element of privilege that goes into this kind of decision making, but it is implied.

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Totally agree about efficacy and side effects, but when you say vacines are “way less likely to cause problems” without actual numbers it makes it hard to evaluate that. Telling the public the vaccine is x% effective, without making information available about the % of adverse effects they have caused is incomplete information which is necessary in order for them to make an informed decision.

Nothing i have written contains lies, period. As far as “reading science” citing the CDC, FDA and MMR product information sheet are not conspiracy sites.

From the CDC:
“In 2018, 349** individual cases of measles were confirmed in 26 states and the District of Columbia. This is the second-greatest number of annual cases reported since measles was eliminated in the U.S. in 2000. (The greatest was 667 cases reported in 2014).”

There were 318.6 million people in the US in 2014.

Also from the CDC:
“About 3 out of 100 people who get two doses of MMR vaccine will get measles if exposed to the virus.”

So if what you say about getting the measles has a much higher risk of febrile seizures you could see why someone would be conflicted about it in regards to vaccinations.

This seems like a non-sequitur.

It doesn’t say that 3 out of 100 people who get the vaccine will get the virus, it says that 3 out of 100 will get the virus if exposed to the virus. Extremely close to 100 out of 100 people without vaccination will get the virus if exposed to the virus. That statement should not give anyone any cause for concern about the vaccine, it doesn’t identify any risks of being vaccinated. It gives a layman-accessible-but-accurate understanding of how effective vaccine is.

Again, this is because of vaccination. Raising this as a reason to question the need to vaccination is a lot like saying that because food insecurity is on the decline you don’t need to eat anymore.

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I’m wondering if most anti-vax is coming from parents psychologically scared of giving their kids a needle jab. If it requires a doctor visit, more steps. Easier to rant on the internet.

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How about this? Common reactions to MMR include soreness at the site, slight redness, slight swelling. Fever is a rare side effect and fever sufficient to cause seizure is extraordinarily rare, on the order of 1 in 100,000 doses, more or less. I have been practicing pediatrics for 30 years now and and can count the number of febrile reactions on one hand, and the number of febrile seizures on zero hands. You are peddling fear and ignorance dressed up as “won’t someone think of the children!” Again, there is more than adequate actual peer reviewed scientific literature regarding vaccine safety and efficacy. I suggest you read it.

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