Panera's CEO to McDonald's CEO: "Would you really eat your own kids' meals?"

I feel your pain. I’ve been probably a dozen times and never can find anything that I’d order again.

The difference between BK and Panera is the fact I like eating a BK burger but it makes me feel regret for consuming something that unhealthy. While I feel regret when eating at Panera because I just wasted +$6 on something I don’t even find appetizing.

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The Panera’s around me stay busy during lunch, but it’s almost sadly comical the amount of people that pour into any of the local Chick-fil-a’s…

If their chicken isn’t breaded with some type of lab created “additive” that is the equivalent of crack I’ll be damned.

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It’s not crack, but their breading includes MSG, which’ll definitely make something fried taste even better than it already should. Glutamic acid is tasty stuff.

Far away, across the vast food desert.

My mistake. I really did mean 7 to start.

And every single one of those people is eating a crappy chicken sandwich which puts their profits into extremely questionable political lobbying.

They’re banned in my city, and I wish other parts of the country would follow their lead.

Before or after triple bypass surgery?

Right. Because everybody has “the market” close by where they can get affordable and fresh whole ingredients as well as the time or inclination to shop for, and make a meal out of them. These may be trivial things to you, but for many of us they simply aren’t.

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The time I would say we all have. Certainly anyone who can take their family to a fast-food chain could use the time to shop for and prepare at least some food themselves.

The inclination I’ll grant you. The skill too.

Managing a household is not trivial.

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Yeah, you have to prioritize eating good foods in order to fit it in to your day.
It can be done. It’s not nearly as easy as fast food; it takes thought and prior planning, and caring about what you’re feeding yourself and your family. Unfortunately for most Americans, there’s a lot more fast food places than farmers markets.

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Not 250 items. 250 combinations. Might still be a lot but it’s not the same.

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Not sure I’m comfortable with the idea it’s ok to feed your kids crap as long as it’s affordable. And is this the best McDonald’s can do? How about putting some of that awesome crappy toy money into better food?

While I’m not a Panera lover, I do think this is a good starting question. If you wouldn’t eat your kids’ meals, why are you feeding it to them?

I doubt you’d find many parents who’d balk at eating a hamburger, chicken nuggets, apple slices, and fruit juice.

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Probably not if they are already eating there. But would the senior execs of those establishments?

Why not? I mean, come on. We’re not talking about trash. Do you seriously believe the CEO or senior executive of McDonalds doesn’t at least occasionally eat cheeseburgers?

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http://americannutritionassociation.org/newsletter/usda-defines-food-deserts

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My personal observation is that it is also about what sates you. Meat - including fatty meat – and eggs last me longer tham even whole bread, which makes me consume less calories.

That’s a factor for sure.

Thanks for that link.

Although any article that starts with “Food deserts are defined as parts of the country vapid of fresh fruit, vegetables, and other healthful whole foods, usually found in impoverished areas” is going to struggle to keep my attention beyond that point :slight_smile:

I do appreciate the problem of not being easily able to even just get hold of fresh fruit and veg. That’s not so much a question of time rather than lack of shops and the means to get there or being able to afford the healthier stuff.

There are then of course also the issues of whether people have the space and means to store fresh produce or whether they have the space and means to prepare them.

I don’t know what US housing is like in cities but in Europe it’s quite common for flats of the sort that poor people can just about scrape to afford to be so small that there is no room for more than a microwave and a kettle - if that.

And whilst I know that there were loads of cookbooks in the 80s telling us how we could cook everything in a microwave, realistically microwaves get used to heat stuff up and maybe cook a potato or rice.

According to Wikipedia the term ‘food desert’ was coined by a Scot so yet another thing for Great Britain to be proud of :frowning:

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