The only way that anyone could ever claim that the “rule of law” is strong in the USA is by completely ignoring the history of Black and Native America. And it’s only marginally better for poor White folks.
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This is nothing- watch us when Trump goes down.
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First off, if it didn’t happen to be fantasy, Christ et al could typically see clearly into the hearts of men. In Manafort’s case, he couldn’t stop lying (and still hasn’t) and it couldn’t be more apparent if you drenched him in day-glo paint and hung a sign above his head that read, “Liar, liar, pants on fire”.
For those who were truly repentant, Christ was forgiving, but do remember he was known to grab a leather strap and bust up some payday loan businesses a time or two.
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Counterintuitively, his sentence is so short that he will actually end up serving more time in prison (because Trump won’t bother pardoning him for only 2 years).
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he’ll serve a year to two before parole. maybe including the 9 months served. almost guaranteed.
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Well, he is a white man.
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Many of us are deeply frustrated that people who sell a little pot get hard time (at least if they are black), while assholes like this, who cause serious damage to all of us by their actions, helping to get a racist, incompetent, jack ass elected to one of the MOST POWERFUL POSITIONS IN THE ENTIRE FUCKING WORLD get a slap on the wrist. The damage he’s done to all of humanity far outweighs whatever some kid selling pot to bring in some needed income to his family. But the kid selling pot will end up probably eventually serving life, because we live in an entire fucked, racist system that let’s people like manafort fuck over all of humanity… because he’s a white man.
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If expecting a man who worked to openly subvert democracy in a foreign country for a dictator and stole from my pocket as an American citizen as well as following through over decades with multiple felonies to Simply go to jail for a long time is bloodthirsty I guess you find impartial justice bloodthirsty, and you don’t care when a conservative defrauds taxpayers and robs from you.
I find nothing vindictive or vengeful and especially not bloodthirsty in this thread. Merely a lot of people who rightfully called bullshit many times on this man who did a lot of atrocious things because of greed and complete immorality. If you are going to use compassion why don’t you save it for people who deserve it, this worthless fuck certainly deserves none.
The fact that he was the current president of the United States’s campaign manager says anything else I think I could muster about him.
The guy is literally an undemocratic greedy crook that helped elect a greedy crook. Sympathy and compassion are the last things I will ever have for him or anyone who wants to defend his bullshit.
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Double jeopardy only means you can’t be tried twice for the same crime. The state charges Manafort is potentially facing may be related but are entirely separate offenses than what’s he’s been convicted for in Federal court. Trump can’t pardon him here.
Because Manafort nullified his plea deal with Mueller by lying, New York state prosecutors now have the option to bring these additional charges forward. They would have been waived had Manafort kept to the terms of his plea bargain.
He’s also facing additional sentencing in Washington DC next week where Judge Jackson can order his sentence to run consecutively to the Virginia case rather than concurrently. Given the light sentence handed down by Judge Ellis today, most expect the less friendly DC court will do exactly that.
Remember a pardon does not wipe away the conviction. Manafort is still a convicted felon no matter what. This fact may even exacerbate any sentence assuming he’s again found guilty in state court.
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It’s not our fault he wasn’t held accountable for any of his crimes until near the end of his life. He should be grateful he didn’t get caught earlier.
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With more on the way…
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More like this:
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I’ll show them compassion when they show it to the poor and minorities of the world. But we’re tired of seeing people like Manafort, whose criminal activities negatively impact MILLIONS of lives getting slaps on the wrist compared with first time drug offenders. I’m tired of the rich embezzling tens of millions of dollars, and only getting real jail time if they stole from other rich folks, while a kid who steals some lawn mower equipment must serve decades of his life. I’m tired of judges who sentence young black men to forty years for a drug violation because of mandatory penalty laws telling us how a corrupt, dictator supporting, tax evading, lying, cheating, jackass like Manafort is a “good man” and how the sentencing requirements are “too strong” for such as him. I’m tired of an entire system that says the crimes of rich white folk are “white collar” and deserving of more mercy than the crimes of the poor.
Aren’t you tired of these things? No? You like punishing the weak and letting the strong get off easy? I am ALL for making the crimes folks like Manafort and Madoff commit have far steeper penalties than shoplifting or getting caught buying some drugs. Because I believe their crimes are the worse to our society as a whole. Put Manafort in some deep, dark prison someplace, he stole, cheated, and attacked the entire country, not just a corner store.
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And he wasn’t too bothered by his sentencing here, a notably harsh sentence:
https://www.politico.com/story/2009/11/jefferson-gets-13-years-in-prison-029506
U.S. District Judge T. S. Ellis III , who presided over the trial and sentencing, said that “public corruption is a cancer on the body politic” and later added that “public corruption is a cancer and needs to be surgically removed. “
Ellis went on to slam the current generation of public officials for looking more to enrich themselves while in office than to helping society.
The fucking irony, it burns.
And if it seems like the judge would have given a black man a substantially longer sentence over political crimes it’s because, well… he did. “Otherwise blameless life” versus ‘throw the book at him’…
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No, no. The judge was obviously confusing “blame” with “white”. Happens all the time.
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Unfortunately, in this kind of instance, a pardon does wipe away all legal consequences of a conviction. So it is, in effect, wiped away.
I notice that Mickey doesn’t get striped trousers. Feckin’ favouritism!
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