Are you at least willing to grant people on forums that you regard higher than twitter the right to have a different opinion thank yours? Do they get to tell you their opinion? I’m guessing yes, since you didn’t PAY for your forum usage.
The suggestion that she shouldnt recline because his couldnt only makes sense if no-one on the plane can recline.
Otherwise, the domino would move up to her row, and now she would also not be ‘able’ to recline. So the pressure would move to the row ahead of her.
And so on until the first row.
There’s a solution for this. Take your bag out from under the seat and put it behind your legs. You can then stretch your legs out under the seat in front of you. You just need to stow it under the seat during take off and landing.
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They’re both wrong. Be kind to each other.
Both of these people are arseholes and that is all there is to it.
Is that it? Is that seriously it? Is there a pervasive belief that the only thing stopping some men from > treating other men the way some men treat women is the threat of violent physical retribution? Despite the fact that we, y’know, live in a society that is supposed to have very unambiguous laws about that in particular!?
I mean, yikes . That is not a take I am familiar with. (I guess it might explain all the guns?)
I might have a unique position on this. I lived for 40 years as a woman, and being threatened with violence by men was not a unique experience. It happened over parking spots, road rage, in check out lines, just everywhere. We are not talking every day, but enough that it was a part of my daily safety routines.
I transitioned to male, with a beard, and it’s a whole different world. I get respect and am left the hell alone. Sure there are still the occasional instances, because I am in a profession that is adversarial in nature, but we are talking a very big drop in day to day occurrences. If I had not spent my first 40 years as a woman dealing with this small minority of shitty men, I’d be hard pressed to even know this kind of thing existed. I don’t see them now. At all.
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There is no right or wrong here, they’re just both douches
He shouldn’t be punching the seat
She shouldn’t RECORD without permission
She should just put the seat back up if she was THAT bothered by it
She should definitely not make such a big deal out of it, I mean come on this isn’t assault, she’s not harmed in any way
Well now… the airline gives you restrooms and doesn’t set a time limit on their use. But I wouldn’t defend someone who decided to sit there the whole flight—inconveniencing their fellow passengers—just because the airline makes it possible.
Well…kind of… The space behind your feet is actually the under- seat storage area for the person behind you. Now you’re back to being in somebody else’s space, and another possible argument.
The only reason? No.
Can it be a factor in some altercations? Sure, why not?
Do all men who beat women and children also fight men their own size? Probably not.
I’m unsure of the exact point you are trying to make.
That’s not true. There are a few safety related reasons why they would not allow this.
So you consider being on an airplane as a space with a reasonable expectation of privacy? interesting. The courts would say otherwise.
Privacy is not the issue imo, I don’t know how it goes in America, but in my country being videotaped without permission is illegal, whether it being private or not
In the US (and this took place in the US on a US airline) the law is you cannot record someone without permission IF the person had a reasonable expectation of privacy. There is zero expectation of that on an airline flight.
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Wow that surprises me honestly
BTW do you think she will get something out of this? (as I’m not familiar with American law) like is it assault if someone punches a chair you’re sitting in? (honest interest)
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I don’t think she gets anything but grief from the internet because she chose to recline her chair, something she has literally every right to do. Its not a selfish act. It doesn’t make her a horrible person. She isn’t a monster. All this did was expose her to the internet shaming culture, because we have to be outraged about everything.
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I get your point, however I think she put herself in this position when she made this public and shared the video. I’m not saying she is a bad person, but she could have reacted differently as well don’t you think?
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Yes, I understand that you, and many other people here, believe this. It is your opinion, not fact. And I believe all of you to be wrong.
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I didn’t say put your stuff under your seat which as you mentioned would be encroaching on the person behind you, just put it behind your legs. If you’re stretching out it shouldn’t be a problem.
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It’s their seat and I’m not going to tell another person what they can or can’t do in their seat. What is it about airplanes that make some people air rage?
Trapped in a tube, wanting to reclaim some level of control?
A lack of self control?
Is it the simple act of being trapped? Some high functioning task oriented people burn hot and does that energy get trapped on a plane?
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