Are you saying “Trust the free market” ???
Just like something a Cultural Marxist would do…
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It’s not like they don’t show exactly how much money a Kickstarter has already made, either. It’s not a surprise when you give money to something that’s already been funded. You can see it’s been funded, so obviously people still want to contribute even when it doesn’t actually need any more money.
Even with Kickstarters run by my friends; if I see they’ve asked for $10,000 and they already have $16,000, well that’s a good excuse not to contribute if I didn’t really want to. I’m going to take my $100 and put it elsewhere. If it’s already funded and I still put my cash into it, I really really wanted you to have it.
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Or maybe he just has principles to defend, to the hilt, in exclusion of what others see as moral imperative.
You may be confusing him with Marc Randazza, who tweeted to the effect that he is representing Cernovich.
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Lysenkos of the humanities? You seem to have far too high a opinion of the humanities.
In the sciences, of course, the damage done by Lysenko can be quantified quite easily–because experimental results are a much better fitness function than ideological purity. Can you say the same of literary criticism?
It’s very axe-grindy against Marcotte; whether you believe that Marcotte should have deleted the comments in question, or simply reframed them, the blog generally seems to be of the opinion that the Duke lacrosse players were the victims of an outrage unprecedented in American history, and that anyone who wasn’t on their side can’t be punished enough. And it doesn’t help that Ken White frames it as “nasty totalitarian rumbling”.
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Thank god a complex view of this issue is being shown instead of the “Gamers, Shut-ins enraged that secret club is infiltrated by Progressives” headlines boingboing has previously posted on this whole gamersgate fiasco.
Seems to me that’s exactly what it says, just with ‘also, Gawker are awful’ added.
And that Joel Johnson seemed so nice when he worked on BoingBoing, too.
And after all a complex discussion of the nuances of the case is all #GG wants, right?
Because, actually, it’s about ethics in game journalism. . .
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Oh gods, yeah, the money issue, and also claims that she somehow took the money and ran (which I guess have tapered off a bit, given that she’s still doing the work). Yes, what a terrible indictment of Sarkeesian that people wanted to give her far more money than she asked for, and that she then went on to use that money to do exactly what she promised to do, but to a greater degree and far longer than originally planned. Just awful! Also the false equivalencies - I keep seeing, “Well, the harassment is bad, but so was what these women did [talking about something they didn’t actually do, but even if they did wasn’t remotely equivalent].” That people bring up and get fixated upon those little irrelevancies make it clear that they’re being disingenuous and it’s not about the other issues they keep claiming are the significant ones.
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Well, it’s become extremely clear, if you look at the history, issues and if you listen to supporters of gg, that “Reactionaries, misogynists enraged that secret club is infiltrated by Progressives” is a pretty succinct and accurate description of what gg is all about.
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Smug attitude aside, yes, a complex discussion is preferable to one that simply mocks one side.
Even as someone who enjoys mocking people, it gets old after the second time around.
Whose smug attitude, yours or mine?
I’m not denying that many reactionaries and misogynists have chimed in on the gamersgate fiasco, but it seems to me that you’re equating using “Reactionaries, misogynists” interchangeably with “Gamer, Shut-ins.” Or at least implying that gaming is the secret club that reactionaries and misogynists use to pass the time.
Yours. The broken sentence structure, redundant phrasing, and ellipses all seem to be pointing towards a sarcasm that continues to mock one side, as if it hasn’t stopped being funny yet.
Whereas your overly polite tone is intended to grate upon people’s nerves!
I think we’re done here.
Normally I’m against this kind of line, but citation please. Boing Boing has articles about games, reviews of games and spotlights of game kickstarters on a regular basis. Many people here identify themselves as gamers, grown up gamers with jobs, families and interests outside of gaming who don’t think that gaming makes you a shut-in, and yet think gamergate is terrible. People don’t talk about gamers being terrible here, they talk about gaters being terrible.
This very nuanced and well written piece does not come to a different conclusion, rather, it supports what I think is one of the most common points made against gamergate supporters in this forum - that if you choose to make loud noise at this time about ethics in gaming journalism and use the gamergate hashtag then other people will probably assume you are a misogynist cretin, because it makes sense for them to do so.
I absolutely don’t doubt that you’ve seen this done in media outlets. But you are projecting it here.
I wonder if the name of Gawker might have been a hint. It’s not called “Accurate, Thoughtful Discusser.”
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I see. I just got the impression from the reference to her “flame out,” that White believes she should have either defended the comments or admitted they weren’t good comments. My feeling, based on what he posts about criminal justice, is that he’s well aware that what happened to the Duke players happens all the time to people without their privilege.
overly polite >.>
it’s like being excessively literate.
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No, that was my “fixed that for you.” As a game developer, I don’t believe that. The supporters of gg contain two groups - gamers who are reactionary misogynists (and would like it to be their own secret club), and reactionary misogynists who aren’t gamers (and, in fact, hold gamers in contempt). Since this has been discussed in Boingboing articles, I’d say it isn’t taking that position, either.
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I must be extra-thick today, since I can’t make heads or tails of this remark. Ken loves to talk 1st Amendment issues, especially against “censorious asshats” (re: prior restraint issues raised by the VanValkenburg PPO hearing). When he announces “self recusal” from a particular topic on popehat, it’s usually tied to his involvement in a case…either as counsel, wrangler, adviser, etc.
Admittedly, the only times I seek out Cernovich is when I need refreshing on non-Canadian rough sex or #fatshaming. What did he do that requires Randazza? The thing from Anil Dash? Or the thing from Chris Kluwe? Or from the tease-talk about siccing a P.I. on Zoe Quinn? Or a new thing? Whatever the situation is, I don’t have the two confused. Ken just wrapped up a case, and he’s always looking for work…I was thinking maybe he found some.
