Ron DeSantis signs laws banning foreign citizens from owning land in Florida

Equal protection under the law isn’t exclusive to US citizens. This performative xenophobia is completely unenforceable and unconstitutional. But since when did republicans care about the constitution, capitalism, free enterprise, or government overreach?

I’m all for laws that prevent investors — foreign or domestic — from buying up huge tracts of land and properties only to have them sit vacant as piggybanks. This is clearly not what’s happening here.

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That depends entirely upon who is sitting on the Supreme Court’s bench. Our traditional safeguards have been corrupted completely. There’s no assurance any racist law he railroads through will be overturned.

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“It’s all about sending a message”

What’s the message? The governor is an idiot?

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I suppose you haven’t been paying attention. The message DeSantis is sending is: vote for him for president because he is anti-China and white supremacist. Add in the other bills that he has signed and celebrated and you can also add that he is a Christian fascist, misogynist, and against equal civil rights for everyone except white cisgendered Christian men.

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Happy Excuse Me GIF

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Hmm. Maybe he’s trying to shut down all those international pavilions in EPCOT?

(Not really since they’re foreign-sponsored, not foreign-owned, but he would if he could.)

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Luckily Florida has some excellent hotel options if you are a Chinese national looking for proximity to state secrets; so all is not lost.

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come for the food poisoning, stay for the launch codes.

it’s good to understand your market i guess :crying_cat_face:

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Ok, that should also be changed.

I guess he hates Canadian Snowbirds and their contribution to the Florida economy.

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the law was written for purely racist, power seeking reasons.

the gop won’t change it to satisfy you, or to protect floridians – changing it would undermine the whole point.

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We’re all going to Mexico now anyway. Florida and Arizona are too dangerous. :grin:

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Are Asian americans also banned? Black americans, Jewish americans? Latino americans? No? Ok, so not “racist”. Xenophobic perhaps. Even so, broken clocks are correct twice a day. There are plenty of countries in the world that restrict or prohibit foreign nationals from buying land. Other than Malaysia, that paragon of democracy and human rights, no South East Asian countries allow foreigners to own land. Is that racist? How about the UK, Canada and Australia, where similar measures are either being considered or already implemented? Are they racist too?

so unless it’s “whites only” it’s not racist? that’s not a reasonable position to take

( ex. Chinese Exclusion Act - Wikipedia )

look, i honestly don’t know enough about other countries laws to evaluate them. but fortunately, this isn’t about them. it’s about the us and specifically florida

they want to look “tough on china” while not actually doing anything that would fix the property speculation problem. and they’re doing in a way that will harm chinese residents ( ex. someone on a work visa ) - and by proxy - recent immigrants and citizens with chinese sounding names

they’re using race for political power. isn’t that the very definition of racism?

( narrator: why yes, yes it is. )

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Yes, the UK is racist, among the other anti-human rights positions the government has and is trying to introduce (both Labour and the Tories, in case anyone thinks that’s a gotcha).

I hate living in this country, and I hate it when other countries copy the worst things our government do.

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Please cite specific racially based UK policies. Is Thailand also racist? They don’t allow any foreigners to buy land.

That isn’t how shit like this works. These laws are never written to specifically target specific racial groups. They are written to be broad and interpreted selectively by those enforcing those laws. Not a single law in the Jim Crow era explicitly stated the race of people barred from voting - they had literacy tests, selectively enforced. None of them said “Black people can’t vote” because that was forbidden by the 15th amendment. Instead, it offered cover for harshly and selective enforcing laws of segregation. White people constantly transgressed those laws, and were rarely held accountable for it. Where as even the insinuation that a POC transgressed those laws could be violently enforced.

For the UK: the entire Brexit shit was fraught with racist intent - “those people coming across the channel”… taking up “resources from real citizens”… in the midst of a refugee crisis coming primarily from Africa and the ME…

And let’s not even get into the shit aimed at the trans community right now…

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Weird that so many people can’t see what is right in front of their faces… Nothing that Desantis does is free of his bigotry. He wields that shit like a hammer. There is absolutely no reason whatsoever to give that fucker the benefit of the doubt that the laws that he advocates for and signs into law are on the level. They are most certainly not.

Get with the program people - we are fighting against fascists, and Desantis is one of them. Stop taking them at their word and start looking at the highly destructive results of the policies these assholes are pushing.

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You’re not sure, but the fascist governor of Florida is. They’re his core supporters, after all. If you (and others) want to give DeSantis the benefit of the doubt and believe that this law’s primary purpose is as he states instead of an appeal to white xenophobes, you may want to look into a career producing town hall events at CNN.

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It boggles my mind that anyone cannot see this law is racist in origin, will be racist in effect, and was pushed thru by Desantis to appeal to the white racists in the GOP

You need citations to believe the UK government is racist? What rock do you live under?

There is this concept in the law. de jure, in law vs de facto, in fact. As @anon61221983 said, many laws are not on their face racist. But definitely are and were de facto racist in the way they are and were implemented. Take any given set of traffic laws. On their face, not racist. In actual use by most cops in the US, they are a tool to harass and terrorize BIPOC. The statistics on the races of those who are pulled over show this.

This law was written to harm very small segments of the population. Nationality is a stand-in for race. They couldn’t write the law based on race because it would be unconstitutional. So they use nationality and the nations they choose are ones that contain mostly brown people.

The inclusion of Russia as one of the target countries is a fig leaf. The racists who made this law, the racist who signed it, and the racists who are going to implement it can point at that part and say “see? This law isn’t racist because we included Russian citizens who everyone knows are white.” But when the statistics come out (assuming desantis even allows such data to be gathered) it will be the non-whites who are targeted under this law. But if you’ve been paying attention to the speeches about the law they don’t mention Russian citizens. They talk about the dangers of Chinese nationals. You don’t even have to really look. These people are always telling on themselves.
They probably won’t even piss off China with this. China is currently looking for ways to keep their citizens in China or force them to come back.

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