Of course I have to wonder if Quick Trip intended to do so or not. All it takes to start it is one round of “Hey! You pay for that or I’ll call … yeah, never mind. Just keep it.”
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“Gentlemen, let’s get this thing straight, once and for all. The policeman is not here to create disorder. The policeman is here to preserve disorder.” – Richard J. Daley, Mayor of Chicago from 1955 - 1976.
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I bet they were quite shocked at having to face any consequences for their attitudes and tribal behaviors.
ACAB.
Even if these particular cops haven’t been caught in misconduct, they work with people who have and have very likely helped cover it up.
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Whoa. That’s quite a leap. Many bars have exactly that rule, posted visibly. Sure, Coos ignore it, but that doesn’t negate the rule.
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So is there any room at all for the notion that not every cop is evil?
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Or saunter. Most amble. Some shamble.
I haven’t seen a whole lot of running, much less towards…
Absolutely. As soon as they hold each other accountable every single time they cause harm. Because an individual cop could be wonderful taken out of context, but in context every single one is part of a racist, bigoted, corrupt, violent mob.
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No, not really. I know guys from my neighborhood that were my friends as kids who became cops, and aren’t inherently evil. But… they can all tell stories that speak only to gross injustice under the color of law. They didn’t do it themselves, but know the details of who in their little tribe did.
“Good” cops who tolerate intolerable behaviors of their peers are not good. Full stop.
The bad apple spoils the barrel, so as long as police refuse to police themselves, or actively punish those who do speak out, then there are no good cops.
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Lol, wild.
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Yeah, they’re great at running into situations where they fear for their lives so they can shoot wheelchairbound old men in the back 9 times.
Cops bring danger with them at all times no matter where they go. Authoritarians with guns and a persecution complex are inherently dangerous.
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Of course there is a problem but cops like that do not represent every cop in the country.
That cop should be prosecuted and police departments every where should be sharing everything about that shooting to retrain cops or to figure out why that happened. Any cop that can’t be retrained should be let go. Any cops that behave like that should be prosecuted and if the heads of departments won’t do it then start there with the house cleaning.
Sorry if I believe there is a huge problem but I don’t want to condemn every cop in the country.
Every cop in the country has chosen to participate in a fundamentally racist and classist system of oppression.
The police are the arm of the government used to enact violence on its own population to gain compliance. All cops are willing participants in a system of violent coersion. There are no good cops because all cops have chosen to be bad.
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So lawless society then?
What’s the solution?
Mine is start from the top work your way down, retrain and or weed out the bad ones and go from there.
Nope, there are also cops who are perfectly OK with cops like that. That covers the whole set.
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Freedom is responsibility. If you want to be free, you must be responsible for your safety and the safety of your community. The police can only enact violence. Actual community members can obviate the need for it.
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Armed robbery in progress, now what?
I mean sure I would prefer your perfect world but unfortunately our current world ain’t even close to the point where we take care of each other.
We can’t even get everyone on the same page fighting a deadly pandemic.
In my opinion the best hope we have is cleaning up the current system.
You realize than police are trained to provide a violent response to a violent emergency, right?Statistically, that represents about 1 out of 20 calls they respond to. Police forces could easily be cut back to just that scope (with proportional staffing and funding) without creating any kind of lawlessness. Backfill their other responsibilities with experts in each particular area - animal control, traffic enforcement, criminal investigation, domestic violence counselors, crisis counselors, community outreach, etc. We would get far better results with only a tiny fraction of the police violence and corruption.
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There are nuanced answers to this question. Many of us live in cities that have been torn apart by massive weeks- or months-long police riots and are therefore not in the mood for nuance.
If the police can’t even protect us from the police, then what good are they?
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You fucking hand over the cash and do nothing? The business’s losses are insured anyway. Police don’t stop robberies they take a report afterward.
Maybe a better example for you would be a hostage situation? Then the solution is, you do whatever they want to let go of the hostage, then intercept the person who did it after.
Obviously.
Maybe… Reckless fast driver? Well, then you’d have state patrol with vehicles and techniques for coralling, or directing. A firetruck blocking the road is way better than 40 cops chasing a bronco like a pack of mindless dogs.
Practically every situation you care to think of can be better handled with people other than an armed gang full of roided out high school bullies with guns who always cover for each other.
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I’m not happy with our world right now but I wouldn’t want your world either.
