People have been using Yellow Cards for years to show vaccinations. I don’t see how it’s much different. Other than the extreme polarization associated with COVID today.
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It is in most other Western countries. In the U.S., though, at least a third of the adult population would not agree.
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i have also heard that some of the cards are printed with thermal ink printers, so laminating them with a hot laminator will make them go blank.
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Accidentally did that with my fishing license! Lesson learned.
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That’s cause they’re kinda not. They’re not neccisarily intended to be used as ID or proof of vaccination. And the “official” end of it is your medical record (which is digital these days).
It seems like it’s just a medical tracking document. Just date, location and type of vaccine along with the lot number of each dose. And a reminder section for additional appointments.
It’s the sort of thing thst would be listed in your medical records, a medical chart, or a by mail reminder card.
Mine is just filled out in pen.
We’re distributing an emergency approved, still in studies vaccine in gymnasiums and pharmacies. For free. To a hell of a lot of people without insurance or primary care doctors.
And then we haven’t instituted anything else for the end of it that might require proof. So there’s nothing else to show the TSA, a potential employer, a school or anything else you might need to provide proof for.
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i’ve never had to show mine – do i have one? people are now talking about needing them to go to the movies, to go to the office, to go see a show, to take a plane, etc. so its pretty different.
yeah, this most definitely. many countries already require quarantine upon arrival, if they let you go there at all. basically, i think – take what exactly what already exists today… and tweak it to bypass those systems if you have a vaccine card.
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I am told that laminating a social security card may defeat some ‘security features’ on the card although, my card is so old that the only ‘security feature’ it could possibly have is a smear of dinosaur poop.
I once had a gig with a company where I had to provide several forms of id. They asked for my social security card as one proof even though it clearly says it’s not valid for id. When I produced it, the company would not accept it because the card was laminated. I ended up having to get a statement from the social security administration that stated my ss#. The business world is weird.
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Along with the dreaded red card
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My thought when I saw an office depot add offering free lamination was, are they going to offer free delamination when the boosters come out?
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Won’t need to laminate a card when I get my shots - my BC Provincial Care Card records will show when I’ve been given each shot and what the vaccine is. Any authorized healthcare professional can look it up.
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IIRC, the offer expires before Phase II.
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Drivers license comes to mind. Maybe they just need to chip all that info into the driver’s license in the first place idk.
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“I’m just sitting here flummoxed, thinking about the implications of it all,” said Dr. William Schaffner, a professor of preventive medicine and infectious disease at Vanderbilt University Medical Center in Nashville. “Anyone who works in the health-care environment obviously contributes to the safety of the environment, which is their own safety, their colleagues’ safety as well as the patients they serve.”
Not even Angels of Death.
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I’m opting for the barcode version of this vaccine card, at the base of my neck, as Lord Asmodeus commands…
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Exactly - mine was so old maybe maybe it had some small micro-printing or something, but it was very old. But the thing that blew my mind, and I even said this to the person after I got everything done:
“You won’t take this because it is laminated, even though it would take SOME time and talent to fake. But you will take a pay stub, even though I can get pay checks from an office supply store and make it say what ever I want.”
“Well yes, because the pay stub has to have your tax info- blah blah blah.”
She didn’t get what I was trying to say. I know, I know, no one at the counter sets the policy. It is just very silly.
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It’s the paper and ink itself, they use a particular paper printing process and ink. Like with money. So the only real security feature is the feel and look of it. Lamination can be used to hide something you just printed out at home.
It’d make sense to print then on something actually designed to last with some modern security features. But we wouldn’t want government resources to turn our Social Security cards in Socialism.
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Rotating (time limited) codes are pretty ubiquitous. My Whole Foods Amazon Prime thing does it. I haven’t implemented either feature, but I would think writing the QR code would take longer than adding time limiting verification.
For things like flights or cruises I imagine it’ll be tied to your ticket/frequent flyer number like TSA PreCheck. That would all get squared away for most people before they leave their house.
For everything else I’m curious how secure or ubiquitous it would be. I don’t see it being used for that much domestically. International borders already require vaccinations? At least I hear stories about people traveling and needing specific vaccines first.
I’ve used it for children flying as a form of ID. Proof of vaccination (or exemption) is commonly required for public school…I can’t remember if that applied to other childcare.
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Will they fit into any of the standard “collectible card” holders? i.e. baseball card, whatever the next size up is? If they fit into a badge holder, then I think one of those plastic card holders may work.
Will have to try once I get mine.
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The CDC vaccination paper card is just a backup for the digital information being recorded when you get your vaccine. The eventual vaccine passports (which WILL be required for international travel, mark my words) are very likely going to be derived from that digital data. You will probably have to fill out some form (likely online) that grants your health care provider permission to provide digital proof of vaccination to some private company that will then authenticate in some smartphone app linked to your identity (e.g. passport or driver’s license) or huge QR code printout tied to your biometrics that your are, in fact, vaccinated.
I think there will be some states, municipalities, and businesses that will also require vaccine passports for various activities. Unfortunately, they will need to list which of several private company versions they accept, since the US Gov’t is punting on making this straightforward/easy by failing to set a national standard. New York has already chosen IBM.
Tho, the WHO might set an international standard, like they do with Yellow Fever, so there’s that.
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