Yeah but thats exactly what’s happening in the UK now and what we were talking about.
Freedom of speech and freedom of the press is not exactly the same. According the World Press Freedom Index the US rates 46 globally while Australia is 28 and Germany 14 (link below).
Btw censorship for obscenity is still censorship and that was exactly the kind of content I meant.
And on a related note - as you mentioned it:
Freedom of speech is not the only important human/civil right. Freedom of speech (not including freedom of press, see above) is probably best protected in the US but several other important rights are severly lacking in the US. Especially the right/freedom of life and physical integrity. Arguably the most important right because no life = no speech. It is regularly compromised in the US because the US uses torture and the death penalty (even for minors and people with mental disabilities). So France, the UK or Germany may not have the same free speech protections the US has but other equally or even more important human/civil rights are better protected.
Care to point out a website that the US secretly blocks?
The only thing I can think of that is even close is that there have been some child porn sites that the FBI has taken down inside the US in court-approved seizures, but they all get a very large logo placed on them saying it was done. I can access all the neo-nazi hate pages, terrorist propaganda or bomb making instruction websites if I so choose without any blocking whatsoever.
(This is for the Windows route command; it will be slightly different in other OSes.)
Here the first IP address is tsn.ua, and the second is ae22-454.s31.kiev.datagroup.ua, picked because that’s the path my (non-UK) Linode takes to get there.
Just to reiterate: this works because the site is not blocked, but one link in the default route is not correctly routing to that destination. Maybe they’re deliberately blocking it, but UK ISPs are not.
Greenwald has a legimitate issue with the courage of the press, but I’m not sure that he’d be critical of the ability (thus far) of the press to choose its own contents.
Works find from a UK university connection. tracerout goes through .London1.Level3.net -> .Frankfurt1.Level3.net -> 62.67.36.126 -> ae22-454.s31.kiev.datagroup.ua.
It is censorship but the censor is Russia, not the UK.
They are advertising false BGP routes for all the Ukraine media outlets in an effort to suppress them. The US backbone providers have been told to watch out for this. The European ones are apparently asleep at the switch.
So yet again it’s another sensationalist BoingBoing story that jumps to conclusions - ones that happen to match the agenda of the writers. Were we supposed to think that this was all part of a UK government led plan to support Russia?
‘’…Thank you for your enquiry, unfortunately there has been a white list of international media websites which are currently blocked and this site is affected by this. This means we are unable to assist in getting you access to this website."
It could be that it’s unreachable elsewhere because it’s also being censored elsewhere? Then again, maybe the support message is bogus, I dunno.
Huh. Seems to load for me just fine and I’m on Comcast which I have no doubt would bend over for the US govt if sneezed at. Sometimes ISPs do just suffer from connectivity issues.
