Well, it did at the end, but he had been working on that issue for years before the media really caught up when they finally crossed the goal line.
But either way, it can have been heartfelt work, and he can have shit takes on Chappell, Rogan, etc, too.
Someone not meaning harm is a pretty good reason to forgive them after they’ve tried to redress it, but the idea that it means the harm doesn’t actually matter seems to be some special brand of centrist nonsense. Stewart looked a lot better when the Overton window still had Bush at its edge.
It’s hard to deny intent in that case anyway.
It will be interesting to see what they’re afraid of being sued over.
At Comedy Central he had a staff of other writers holding him accountable every day
Now it’s just him, one old man yelling at clouds
What they “pissed” on:
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Roseanne Cash making good points on some of the complexities for artists being told they should just up and join Neil and Joni.
Neil is righteous. But this is complicated, and perhaps not the right way to go about getting Spotify to monitor themselves. The thing with Neil and Joni, and some others, leaving is that it’s shifted the conversation to put the onus on artists to pull their work, rather than focusing on Spotify paying artists fairly. There’s this hashtag going around, “Delete Spotify.” OK, great. Go to Apple Music or wherever. But how about paying artists for their work?
Way to miss the point, Ms. Cash. The artists aren’t leaving Spotify because they want more money, they’re leaving because they don’t want the stench of Joe Rogan on them.
Did you read the article?
She knows full well what “the point” is, but she’s also saying that for many, that’s not the only point, and that stopping Spotify from providing their music isn’t as easy for some as it is for others.
I did, and she’s certainly right about the difficulties younger, less well-established artists face. We shouldn’t be shaming those who can’t pull their work for various reasons.
But when she says the focus should be on paying artists fairly, she’s derailing the conversation, which is about Spotify’s decision to publish dangerous lies.
I don’t think many people are listening to her, so she’s entirely unable to “derail the conversation.”
More to the content of what shes saying, its a bit muddled, but my reading is that she’s in part decrying how the Rogan conversation has derailed the one about Spotify’s scurrilous payment practices. At the same time, she’s also saying that they’re topics that should be considered together-- complexities for artists that have do with how to make a living and who actually owns some artists’ music help to account for why a lot of artists haven’t publicly dumped Spotify.
So I don’t think she’s saying “the focus should be on paying artists fairly.” I think she’s saying that ignoring complexities for artists and their work makes it harder to understand why artists have yet to leave Spotify indroves over its continued support for Rogan.
But yeah, her comments are a bit muddled, and although she says Neil is righteous, this part does sound dismissive of the protest/boycott:
Spotify is not a music company. it’s a tech company. It’s not like we love Spotify. It exists. What you going to — delete the internet? There are always going to be people who spout misinformation, and we have a lot of politicians who are just vicious and vile. Online platforms have to monitor themselves.
There’s an opportunity for artists to form their own streaming cooperative here.
And some of them have more than enough cash to loan the capital to start it.
Christ, what a shithead.
This does make it even tougher for Spotify to fig-leaf its money-lusting decision to keep platforming Rogan’s bilious spewings.
How do they fit so much shit in such a tiny cranium?
He has a bit of a bothsider streak.
And more shows removed.
I think it would be nice when people opposed all the bullshit he’s pushing, not just the one that directly impacts them directly.
