Not giving someone a megaphone is not the same as silencing someone.
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Spotify pays out a lot of money. The record companies keep it though.
Unless that act of pure thievery enters the conversation we’re not really having a good enough conversation about Spotify and paying artists. Record companies are absolutely coining it right now.
They just aren’t paying artists out of the money they get from streaming. They pay the wrong rate (royalties rather than licensing) and they continue to otherwise steal from artists through the long standing fraud, bad accounting practices, and profligacy of the industry.
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Take it, fucker; show everyone who you really are, once and for all.
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Wouldn’t it be horrible if Spotify had burned all those bridges and vaporised all that goodwill for the sake of someone who then went and jumped to a more explicitly fascist-enabling platform anyway.
Do you think any of the artists who’ve quit it would go back?
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Something tells me this “offer” is not in the form of a check that Rogan can actually cash
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“ In a new missive from his personal site, Young lambastes the Swedish tech executive for Spotify’s alleged practices of underpaying artists and allowing top podcaster Joe Rogan to promote vaccine misinformation.
“To the musicians and creators in this world, I say this: You must be able to find a better place than Spotify to be the home of your art. To the workers at Spotify, I say Daniel Ek is your problem — not Joe Rogan. Ek pulls the strings. Get out of the place before it eats up your soul. The goals stated by Ek are about numbers — not art, not creativity.”
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But at least Daniel Ek is loyal, even if he doesn’t publish Rogan.
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Horrible. Just imagine! It’d be like…
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Yours was pithier, though.
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Look. I pay, host, distribute, advertise and edit your content - but I am not a publisher! Just like having stringers and syndicated columnists doesn’t make a newspaper a publisher.
Please don’t sue me.
You have to hand it to Young. Remember when people were saying this one old guy effecting change was nonsense? Now they’re editing some of Rogan’s hate and disinformation, the stock dropped 25% and he’s pivoted to Ek’s staff. And those early big name defenders of Rogan are dropping.
Anyone want to follow up with Jon Stewart? Remember when he called out JK Rowling because her bigotry effected him; but he was cool with her other bigotry? Just like the Rock.
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Is it really even “free” speech if it costs 100M USD?
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“Go ahead, throw that snowball. Makes no difference to me.”
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It’s called Tidal.
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In March 2021, Square agreed to pay $297 million for majority ownership of Tidal.[6]
Maybe in the past.
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It’s not that complicated.
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Pleased to find out that the podcast Science Vs. from Gimlet (a wholly-owned a subsidiary of Spotify) has announced that until things change, going forward the only new episodes that they will create will be devoted to debunking misinformation on Spotify, starting with a debunk of the Robert Malone episode of The Joe Rogan Experience. They do a lovely little take down with 150 citations.
While Science Vs has been put behind the Spotify exclusive wall they smuggled the episode and announcement out in the still public Reply-All feed:
It’s worth a listen
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Spotify backlash offers rare insight into reeling music industry — and struggles of working musicians
Washington Post, no paywall link:
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