You don’t know me, but you’ve been inside me, and that’s why we’re here today.
Opening line of the statement of the raped girl. I encourage everyone to read the full statement, you can find it here: https://www.sccgov.org/sites/da/newsroom/newsreleases/Documents/B-Turner%20VIS.pdf
More like if he proves to not reoffend after say 20 years? I am kinda like hey the guy has paid his debt to society or whatever you want to call it. While some will never forgive him how much punishment vs. actual rehabilitation etc…
Apparently not Brock the Jock Turner. There should be a special phys ed class on not raping or something. I’m not saying jocks are the only rapists at college, but a lot of them won’t take a class if it’s not offered in their program and the geeky guys who take it can fulfill their phys ed credit requirement.
I’m not disagreeing with your post at all. The phrase “non-consensual” just brought this to mind…
“The party culture”
OT but with all the election talk going on, for a brief second I thought this hateful goblin was blaming the two-party system for his crimes.
Jesus Christ. Did that moron just pull the PC card about this case? Seriously?
My guess is she’s looking forward to President Drumpf.
Cool, maybe the prosecutor can draw up some new charges based on Turner’s failure to call an ambulance so some meaningful jail time can be sentenced to him. But what would those charges be? Does California have a ‘good Samaritan’ law? Attempted 3rd degree murder?
Not sure why you’re bringing it up in this unrelated thread, but the post you are looking for is here: http://boingboing.net/2016/06/06/jacob-appelbaum-tor-developer.html
No kidding.
I didn’t “misunderstand” anything, he just worded his comment very poorly to the point that it closely resembled the lame justifications of rape apologists, and I am NOT the only person who noticed.
Yes, we are all equally capable of doing just about anything; as my Gram used to say, we each possess the potential for the greatest good and the greatest evil.
But there’s almost always a conscious choice in our actions.
I don’t think anyone here was implying or stating:
I gotta tell you, growing up in this society, I dont know anyone who thinks that way.
On the contrary, when you’re female living in a rape culture, you learn to be at least slightly suspcious of pretty much everyone who isnt female, because you know that if you do end up ever being violated the onus will probably unfairly be placed on you:
To insinuate that women are generally unaware of various potential threats to their safety because they have some preconceived image in their minds is disingenuous at best; when most of us are all too conscious that any individual can be a potential sexual predator.
You know what I have not seen in the various comments and statements surrounding this case: If you find someone passed behind a dumpster get them medical attention or at least determine if they need it and get them to a safe environment. I assume this did not even enter the rapists mind.
Here’s the thing;
The way I understand it, from the evidence of pine needles in the victim’s hair and the abrasions along her body, it appears that she was not “found” behind a dumpster, but intentionally dragged there.
As much as some people are straining to pretend that the language being used in this dialogue doesn’t matter much, it really does; as the difference between finding a person unconscious on the ground and being the person who put that other person on the ground speaks to one’s intent, be it sober or inebriated.
Am I correct in reading your interpretation as rape is an offense against society more than a person? Or, if it offends both, the judgement of society trumps that of the victim making it ok to say “alright, now it’s not a thing that happened anymore.”
I can’t say I agree. If someone can get off a sex offender registry it should be through the victim’s action. I’m not sure why that would happen but some find forgiveness empowering and I wouldn’t put myself in the way of that.
Twenty minutes of action. That’s nothing compared to a trigger-happy police bullet’s 0.02 seconds of action.
More the latter. But that also would be in world where we actually do our best to rehabilitate over just punish people too. Stupid ideals and all that. If the kid does not grow out of his ways, well yeah he can stay on the list.
Heilige Küh, that’s the weirdest German dialect I’ve ever seen. I had to read it out loud to be able to understand it.
It’s Yiddish, so it’s technically a sub-Germanic dialect.
הונדערט הײַזער זאָל ער האָבן, אין יעדער הויז הונדערט צימערן, אין יעדער צימער צוואַנציק בעטן,
און קדחת זאַל אים וואַרפֿן פֿון איין בעט אין דער צווייטער.
Hundert hayzer zol er hobn, in yeder hoyz hundert tsimern, in yeder tsimer tsvantsik betn, un kadokhes zol im varfn fun eyn bet in der tsveyter.
May he have a hundred houses, in each house a hundred rooms, in each room twenty beds, and may fevers and chills toss him from bed to bed.
De nada.
IIRC, I got the term ‘fucksocks’ from a Christopher Moore novel over a decade ago, and I later added my own twist with the preceding adjective ‘holy.’
Brock Allen Turner
Welcome to BB. I think you’ll fit in well here.
