I would rather not see people sitting in jail forever - effective systems can help people to become positive members of society. Having said that, I actively want to see Brock not reach his potential. As a Stanford economics major from a privileged background, I am pretty sure the economy would be better off without his influence.
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So you know what I mean about the important peopleā¦ surely.
Different standards for different folks.
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Iām pretty sure dad is the shitty apple tree this rotten little Brock fell from.
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Maybe the guyās kid can look to this guy for inspiration.
http://www.theonion.com/video/college-basketball-star-heroically-overcomes-tragi-19097
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Perhaps.
All I know if it was my child that grew up to do something atrocious like this, Iād feel like a complete fucking failure as a parentā¦ and this is coming from someone whose parameters for āsuccessā in that regard are very simple:
- Healthy survival from birth to age 18
- Demonstrates consistent respect for oneself and for others
- Does not end up a victim of the prison system*
- Does not end up debasing oneself in order to make a living
- Does not become addicted to any harmful substances
- Does not become a remorseless sociopath/psychopath
*This one is harder than the others to maintain, given the apparent covert ploy in the US to eventually incarcerate anyone who isnāt rich.
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I think society as a whole needs to see convicted criminals punished. Hopefully rehabilitated along the way, but still punished. This business of letting people get away with things (e.g., executives of companies that do bad things) just gives everyone the sense that there is no justice, and that āI might as well get mine, because he gets his.ā I think this just leads to more crime and breakdown of society. Punishment is thus a deterrent, whether or not it actually deters a specific (charged & convicted serious) criminal.
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The sprog has 3 simple rules for being home aloneā¦
No cop cars, No ambulances, No firetrucks.
And that should not be so hard to stick to.
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Your offspring?
Those seem like very reasonable parameters.
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Yes I have passed my genetic material on to another human. I am not sure what I was thinking (well actually I did but not gonna do that again thanks). It has been pretty cool so far.
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*lolz
I can relate; I often felt the same after I had āspawned.ā
But still, sheās the most amazing person to me; and although I worry ceaselessly about her well being and her future, I wouldnāt change a single thing.
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I think I agree, if I understand what youāre saying correctly. The sole function of any criminal justice system should be to protect all the individuals in society from predatory behavior by others. If, for example, no one were ever deterred by threat of punishment, then punishment would have no purpose. Which is to say, punishment is never and end in itself, itās a means. If punishment were an end in itself, then the criminal justice system would be concerned with enforcing morality, not protecting people.
Thereās an old tradition in American culture where punishment is the goal of the system, protection is incidental, and rehabilitation is seen as a foolās errand. Itās this idea that justice is the balancing of suffering, that the systemās job is to dispassionately find and exact precisely the right amount of vengeance so people donāt take retribution into their own hands and take two eyes for an eye in the sorts of bloody feuds that have often been the prevailing vehicle of vengeance throughout many places and ages. I donāt happen to endorse this view, but itās very much baked into the system. So when people of privilege and power receive more lenient punishments, itās rightly viewed as one law for the ruled and another for the rulers.
So on the one hand, as misguided as it is to treat punishment as the goal, itās even worse to mete out punishment by wealth or rank or race or gender, which is precisely what happens in our corrupt system.
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No, itās a figure of speech. As in: āHey, Bob, did you get any action with that cutie from Yale last night?ā Or āNow that both me and my boyfriend are working sixty-plus hours, weāre luck if we get any action during the weekā.
Sex. Itās a figure of speech for sex. Except this wasnāt sex. It was rape. Hence, the reason why so many people are outraged.
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Agreed in my opinion as well. (And I say Iād beat the crap out of my sons for emphasis more so than anything. Though Iād at the least slap him pretty hard.).
In the end though I wonāt vilify a parent for defending their child. Even if it is in vain or mis guided.
No. You donāt get to do that. Words can have dual meaning based on perspective and context. Which is at the heart of what I criticized. You do not KNOW this is how he intended to use the word. And you cannot assume.
So no. Take that self righteous bullshite elsewhere.
But in this case, heās also acting as a rape apologist. The buck has got to stop somewhere.
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And quite coincidentally the context changes based on āof actionā and āof an actionā
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Physician, self-righteous thyself.
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I think we agree mostly. I take it a step further, however. Since we are aware and reasoning beings I think thereās a small added benefit to be gained by a common sense that criminals are being punished for their crimes, which shows people that the system is working, that things are balanced. In other words, something that I suppose could be called vengeance, but hopefully in a societal and humane sense, rather than a personal and angry one.
For that to really exist though, we would have clean, safe prisons, judgements that are sane, chances for rehab (along with good measurement of whether someone has really been rehabilitated), and so on.
I personally feel better when I know X went to prison for doing Y (Iām human). But I also think when everyone knows, itās the basis for one of many forms of grease that makes the gears of society mesh smoothly. But I donāt know; maybe Iām just full of it.
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I think he is too. But given that itās his child. Iāll put that as the priority.
Again. Itās still deplorable. I just cautioned that we donāt k ow what he meant with the phrasing. And thatās what was being emphasized as the worst part.
The worst part is a young woman was raped.
Do what, exactly?
Have an opinion about what the man meant when he glibly referred to his sonās digital rape of a unconscious woman as ā20 minutes of āactionā?ā
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