Starbucks apologizes after two cops claimed they were ignored by the baristas

I mean, since cops don’t feel obligated to serve the public, why should random Starbucks employees feel obligated to serve cops?

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When you’re using the words ‘your kind’ to refer to a group of people, you might want to re examine your prejudices.

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Or 150 Tamir Rices.

God, that’s depressing.

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Being a “cop” is a self-selected group identity. No one is born a cop, no one accidentally becomes a cop.

One must very specifically seek out membership in that group, pass requirements to obtain it, and (notionally at least) maintain certain standards to retain it.

When you wear the uniform, display the badge, carry the gun, you not only accept being assigned to that group, but actively seek it out.

If cops don’t like how the general public perceives them, it’s on them to fix that problem.

After you…

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they’re welcome to stop being cops literally any time they choose. not so the groups they single out for capital punishment who are left without recourse or justice.

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I think they meant you could have said “another cop”, but “your kind” is making it personal.

There are at least some cops who are in it to protect and serve.

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I one hundred percent agree, and I respect the choice they made, and the hazards they expose themselves to do so.

I just wish there was some way to tell the difference.

I have all the privilege to not have to worry so much about the difference, because even the worst cop probably considers me to be one of “his kind.”

But if i were some 20 year old barista with some facial piercings and a few visible tattoos, I could take no interaction with a cop for granted.

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If cops don’t like being singled out as running with a gang of murderous thugs, they’re welcome to stop being cops.

It’s super easy. They don’t even get forced into having facial tattoos.

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I think the burden for making this difference obvious rests on the good cops alone. That’s part of what they signed up for, even though they probably were unaware of that fact.l at the time.

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So how do we fix our police problem in a country where the firearm to citizen ratio is 1.1 : 1 ?

I am disinclined to feel for the guys with a variety of firearms, armor, mace, sticks, MRAPs, dogs, replicants, IQ quotas, et cetera at their disposal.

How do we change the police system to find mutual trust ?

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Which is not what you really want to happen if you think about it for a minute. Because the people who would follow your advice are not part of the problem.

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That is the 64 billion dollar question :confused:

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It’s actually pretty simple: Just take those guns and destroy them, if you think the number of weapons per capita is the problem.

But in fact not everyone owns guns in the US, so there’s a lot of countries with the same rate of gun owners, Switzerland comes to mind here.

So you would just have to take the guns from the gun nuts.

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When I was undergoing Infantry training at Ft. Benning GA, we got a three day pass between the basic and advanced phases of that course.

Our drill sergeants made it very clear to us that every moment of the day we wore the uniform, we were representing the United States Army, and that if even one of did something stupid, or dishonorable, or criminal while we were so attired, that we harmed the reputation of literally everyone else who wore the uniform.

If that sort of notion were more pronounced in cop culture, I don’t think we’d have the problem we do now.

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Switzerland is not comparable because they have a well regulated militia.

Practically every household has a firearm. Practically no household has simple, cheap and easy access to ammunition outside of the local armory.

That’s why you never hear about Swiss children shooting their friends and family all the time.

There’s nowhere else in the developed and industrialized world that has American style “gun control” because they’ve seen what happens when it’s allowed this level of permissivity.

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I thought that many officers were vets.

If they’re veterans with recent service in a combat zone, they’ve got into the wrong line of work for their civilian lives.

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The deputies were "laughed at" and "completely ignored," (Riverside County Sheriff Chad) Bianco said in a video.
Well, were they "completely ignored" or not? Being "laughed at" ≠ being "completely ignored."
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All that “cafe” means is that the drink was paid for in person. The order still could’ve been made in the app, though.

I don’t work there, never have worked there, and don’t know the details of the profanity filter.
Just getting all that out there.

However, I have ordered using the app and paid in person. It generates a QR code for the barista to scan, that transfers info of your drink order and order name, which gets printed on the labels, along with the word “café.”

Barista Twitter corroborates this.

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Would the world be better without cops? No. Some cops are actively good people. So to say there are no good cops shows bigotry. Plenty of self selected groups contain jerks; PeTA, Vegans, Golfers.
I fondly remember a good cop. Back when I went to gay bars the security guard was an off duty policeman. He’d work the door, keep an eye on the parking lot, make sure people didn’t drive drunk, before they got behind the wheel-not after they left the parking lot, and escort the drag queens to their cars in the off site parking.
He also worked as a security guard/escort at an abortion clinic. He was a all around good man.
He was killed by a bomb at the clinic by the same guy that did the Olympic bombing.
That officer was a fine person I never heard anything negative about him.
But yes, you’ll hear a lot about bad cops, partly because conflict is in the nature of their job and negativity is in the nature of media.

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