☭ Sup Marxists? ☭

Honestly, that was so awesome I wanted to publish it. But, you know, punch up.

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(hash)SnarxismAhoy!

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Cultural Marxism is even more of Shibboleth. As [wikipedia puts it][1]

Cultural Marxism is an alleged school or offshoot of Marxism that supposedly conceives of culture as central to the legitimation of oppression, in addition to the economic factors that Karl Marx emphasized

It’s great that Glenn Beck is promoting Herbert Marcuse; he was in danger of drifting into obscurity,
[1]: Cultural Marxism conspiracy theory - Wikipedia

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I saw some other discussion of “cultural Marxism”, and it seems to imply an identity between two groups of activists who are frequently at odds with each other.

It’s a complicated story, but in short, I was following up some other debates on social media, and found some accounts of heated arguments between anarchists and Marxists on the one hand, and advocates of identity politics on the other, in which the advocates of identity politics were labelled “social justice warriors”, usually abbreviated SJWs. I believe this preceded Gamergate.

An interesting thing is that I recognized a couple of the names involved, described as SJWs. And, the same people came up in an episode in which some people at 4chan worked up a scheme to humiliate SJWs by initiating a hashtag campaign, “#EndFathersDay”, using sockpuppet accounts on Twitter, and trying to bait SJWs into expressing support for it, as they ratcheted up the absurdity of it. To their credit, several SJWs recognized this for what it was, and set out to expose the sockpuppet accounts, showing that their avatars were stock photos, pointing out inconsistencies in their use of language, and so on.

The central SJWs in these prior episodes, as far as I can make out, haven’t really had anything to do with #Gamergate, though there are overlaps in the networks. Pretty much all the lefties I’m familiar with, who’ve taken notice of the issue at all, have been firmly against Gamergate and supportive of Sarkeesian, Wu, etc. I’m guessing that Gamergate may have started in part as a second effort by the same people behind #EndFathersDay.

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The two groups generally do not get along, in my understanding… some leftists feel that identity politics seriously undermined any traction the left had in US politics after the 60s, while those who focus on identity politics generally feel like some leftists are generally patriarchal and condescending.

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I think identity politics was more a reaction to the decline of the influence of the left, than a cause. But there certainly is a problem with leftists tending towards condescension.

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That’s a distinct possibility. I also think that the left has never had much sway in US politics anyway. the closest we ever got to a Socialist or Marxist getting anywhere near political acceptability was with Eugene Debs, who at one point got 6% of the vote…

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from (don’t click. I warned you that you don’t want to click. Jesus clicked for your sins.) over here.

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I’d stop when Time Cube started to make sense, which would be a few gallons before this drek did.

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Lol. I’m a profiteer, not an anarchist. I go where your markets take me.

I don’t PUA or hate women (otherwise I’d have to be one).

Love the continued traffic.

FYI – CopyLeft and feminism IS Jacobinism, the mother of Marxism.

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Hey bub.

Welcome back.

Please post a screenshot where these forums are “riddled with advertisements.” (your words).

Or, you can take this opportunity to correct the record.

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That reminds me, I need to get around to reading Marx’s “Critique of the GNU Programme”.

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Did Marx have a time machine to write that!?

I want that to be a comic now… a time traveling Marx, showing up at various points in history, writing a critique of whatever is going on…

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Like his free “James-Cooke Snake”

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This question is kind of offtopic but what does “otherwise I’d have to be one” mean in this context?

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Oh, speaking of Jacobinism, here’s a good example of journalism about the gaming industry.

‘You Can Sleep Here All Night’: Video Games and Labor

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similarly, I also hate it when people on my end of the political/value spectrum use the word “fascist” to describe anyone or anything politically conservative, right-wing or just someone being a jerk. it seems like they know they’ll sound hyperbolic saying “nazi” so they switch it out with “fascist” because it’s lesser-known and therefore more brainy-sounding?

I’m not very knowledgeable about politics. It seems that “fascist” might be more of a correct shorthand for “authoritarian” (assuming that’s what the epithet-hurler even means in the first place) than “marxist” is a correct stand-in for “commie” or, you know, “hippie beatnik” or whatever. Marx’s politics seem much more nuanced than fascism, but again, I know enough to know that I don’t know. folks throw both words around pretty blithely, which makes me cringe just from an education standpoint rather than my personal stance.

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Fascism was, at some time, a particular political ideology that was marked by primacy of the state and authoritarianism. When people start using patriotic appeals to justify increased government power and military spending, the comparison to fascism makes a lot of sense.

But, to the point that’s its a bit vacuous, here’s George Orwell’s take from 1944

http://alexpeak.com/twr/wif/

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