Almost completely OT, but I’m dying to know (heh) how that period and experience came to pass?
So, (having not RTFA), the really burning question for me is if he went back to sleep after? 
They do not call her Chicago Liz because she likes deep dish pizza.
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I think that’s an exercise for the reader.
Obligatorily, in each instance, you pulled a gun. That is your way.
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Honest question: I know 2A gives “the people” rights to “keep” and to “bear” – but is there any law that forces the US to sell guns and/or allow guns to be sold?
Abusive family, and particularly a brother who couldn’t direct his rage at the abusive parents so it was focused on me instead.
And @jlw: a gun anywhere in the house would have been turned on me at some point.
I learned a few years ago that he graduated to guns (read a reference in his local paper’s police blotter), but I legally changed my name a long time ago so he doesn’t know where I am. And I don’t think he’d go after me now anyway. I truly do understand that he was acting out of being victimized himself.
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I believe you understand I do not endorse the carrying, or ownership of guns, unless you are Sean Connery in the Untouchables.
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In keeping with the Chicago theme, can’t I be Eliott Ness himself?
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Ness needed to have Chicago mansplained to him. You sure about that?
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Even less big brother’y but could be very effective, make liability insurance mandatory for gun ownership the same way it is for cars. Every driver thinks they are safe and responsible, but we require insurance for them, the same can be done for guns.
When people realize it could cost them real money by being careless with gun storage or can save money by having gun locks/safes, watch how fast responsible behavior starts becoming normal. Plus it allows for the public to offset the damages caused by accidental gun injuries/death. Socializing the damages and losses caused by accidental/careless gun use across all gun owners.
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Oh, yeah, what was I thinking? 
Well, I refuse to be Al Capone. I guess you’re right: I’m Sean Connery. 
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Imagine this post is a like for yours (I’m out of likes for the third time today).
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Watch @Mister44 counter that argument saying that it biases against the poor and undocumented. That this would just be new Jim Crow, and that you’re a racist (or at least a supporter of racist policies) for proposing the idea.
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How precious are you likes, I liked for you. But I could not give a like for myself.
Great thread btw, good arguments fort and back and not the most of the usual.
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Considering that guns are statistically more likely to be used to kill the owner or a family members than to kill a criminal in self defense, restricting gun ownership for minorities would theoretically decrease minority deaths.
I’d advocate for an increased consequence for the use of guns by cops for the same goal.
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If you have the money to buy a gun, you can pony up for insurance that would probably cost less than a wireless bill. Plus nobody is entitled to a gun. Its like a car in one respect. A piece of property which can cause grievous harm to others when used. We socialize the damages caused by bad drivers through insurance because the costs on the public are just too much to bear. Stupid gun owners are in the same boat.
Plus there is appeal to the libertarian types is that it is a purely market solution. Putting the issue into the hands of private industry rather than “big bad government”.
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Got it.
(Would “like”, but… 
Barring a tandem requirement for minorities to marry out of their race, I’m not following the logic in that. 
