That sounds like a story worth hearing.
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Itâs a bit extreme, but the sentiment is basically what I am getting at.
I donât understand why you think this is acceptable and we should just accept it. Itâs not. These cops work for us⌠we pay their taxes which puts money in their pockets. The fact that the black community is disproportionately targeted makes it all the worse.
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I donât think itâs acceptable; Iâve been very clear on this point earlier in the thread, which you are welcome to revisit. My point is one of best practice.
I think what everyone responding to you is attempting to convey is that itâs completely unacceptable to your responders that âbest practiceâ is the exact same thing as âcowering in submission to authority.â Just remember next time that youâre pulled over, the officer may act capriciously, and submission may not be enough to keep you unharmed.
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Cowering in fear is also a terrible response, and absolutely not equivalent to what I am suggesting. Absolutely donât do this, because the police will assume you have something to hide.
As some have pointed out, ârespectâ might not be the right word either. Being âdeferentialâ, perhaps? âPoliteâ?
Youâre right that It could happen to me, just like it could happen to anyone. Iâm not unaware of this, and have outlined changes that need to be made to the system so it doesnât happen to anyone. If I didnât think it could happen to me, I probably wouldnât be advocating for âbest practiceâ.
Not really.
The potential benefit to the community where it happened would be the removal of two corrupt cops. It happened long enough ago that the cops involved have very likely departed their mortal coils. With the cops no longer serving as cops that community would not benefit from the tale.
There were two so their narrative, if they ever gave one, would very likely be believed over mine. History would not benefit from the tale.
It was a stroke of great luck that stopped them from succeeding rather than some genius on my part. My only words of wisdom are, âhope you get really lucky.â Hardly helpful to a contemporary.
The tale itself has no entertainment value: Cops pulled me over. Cops tried to plant evidence. Cops failed. Cops left.
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Regardless of fear, I think your grouping is troublesome. Here are some other groups to think about:
Groups of Priests
Groups of raggedy-assed bikers
Groups of students
Groups of (pick ethnicity)
Groups of gay pride parade participants
I generally try to fear either individuals or institutions, not groups.
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Thereâs not enough evidence to conclude that victims could reduce risk of injury during traffic stops by respect, deference ⌠fear. Itâs just an assumption, and one that happens to fit a problematic bias of victim-blaming that confuses more than it clarifies.
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I dunno⌠since there actually is a long history of groups of white supremacists actually attacking people, Iâd say fearing them is rather a healthy thing to do.
Although a group of nuns can be rather scary⌠if youâre the pope:
Or OâNeil from Orange is the New Black:
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