The Democratic Party is surging thanks to leftist policies, but its leadership are convinced they have to stop it

Hey Boingers,

It’s interesting to read how people think far leftist socialist policies are going to make them happier, successful, and possibly more good looking [that’s a joke :)]?

Let’s cut to the chase. This is a wealth grab. YOUR WEALTH. Plain & simple. If government grabs the wealth of OTHERS then what’s to stop them from grabbing more of YOURS? What makes you so special? If you think government today is overly powerful & abusive, then you’ve only seen the tip of the iceberg. And if government goes far left, then who’s to say the Republican party won’t follow and get elected? They’re going to play the game and not miss out. Now you have real problems!

Go ahead and choose so called ‘democratic socialism’. You can start today by sending 50% [or more] of what your earn to your local, state, and federal government. Maybe you’ll balk at doing that because the old country club Democrat guard is charge? Don’t! Just keep giving more money, because that’s the socialist answer to everything.

Closing with respect to the smart, intelligent members of the BoingBoing community

Apparently it’s my core belief that no one should have to choose between buying groceries and receiving basic healthcare.

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Yes indeed, instituting programmes like single-payer universal health insurance, subsidised post-secondary education, stronger consumer and investor and saver protections, stronger banking regulations, and policies that reduce the number of homeless and hungry and that mitigate the effects of climate change will surely place us all on the Ro-o-o-oad to Serfdom (apparently quite a slippery slope). In no time at all the U.S. will become a confiscatory and expropriating Commie hellhole like just about every other politically stable OECD liberal democracy on the globe today.

The political discussion currently underway here and within the Democratic party goes not to the collection of funds via progressive taxation but to the application of said funds. Libertarians and anti-statists, despite their purported genius at understanding economics and finance, always seem blind to that last part (as they often are to the distinction between wealth and income).

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But you could also end up being like a scandinavian country, which isn’t too shabby in my opinion.

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Good thing none of those are running, then, eh.

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HA HA SO FUNNY

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The tax cut that our idiot prez gave to the rich could have easily paid for the health care for all, better education, free college for everyone and better gun control. It added about $20 to my paychecks. I’ll give it back and more if it meant those issues I mentioned get enacted.

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Sure, I’ll happily send my 50% (or more) when the rich send their 50% (or more) too.

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But… job creators do more than you! They DESERVE to make 300 times what you make! /s

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Long-term the Democrats will win, forever, due to demographic changes in the US. Low-education third world immigrants, and their descendants, don’t vote Republican. Texas will turn competitive within the next couple of election cycles, and then will turn blue, and the same with Florida. There is no Republican path to victory without Florida, and certainly none without Texas. New Democrats like Ocasio-Cortez and Kamala Harris will replace incumbent older white Democrats so the billionaires backing the Democratic party may not get the result they hoped for. It’s going to be something far more progressive and redistributionist than they would have imagined. Depending on your perspective and how you want America to be, we are either doomed, or saved, by mass third world immigration. Either way, new voters are going to bring big and permanent changes.

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Big news on this front today:

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Maintain the gutless center! Take neither the high road or the low road. Just…sit…there…and do nothing!

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This was always likely to happen; the Democrats tinker with the process after every major loss, or at least those which they think they should have won. It usually feels like shutting the barn door after the horses have escaped.

I hope there aren’t unexpected consequences. The function of superdelegates was to provide a check to make sure that the nominee is (a) actually a Democrat, and (b) not a Lonesome Rhodes-style charismatic monomaniac. In other words, to avoid what happened to the Republicans last election. Hopefully this compromise, where the supers can have a say on the second ballot but not the first, will still prevent egregious problems.

(As some of the opponents to the change pointed out, the supers also provide extra representation for minorities, who are often the most active people within the local parties and therefore the ones who end up selected as supers. I don’t see that as a huge concern this cycle as the DNC leadership is currently minority-majority.)

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I agree; the same safeguards that made it difficult for a charismatic populist candidate like Bernie to clinch the Democratic nomination also would have made it more difficult for a charismatic populist candidate like Trump to win the Republican nomination.

Here’s hoping they strike the right balance.

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C.f. The British Labour party whose membership has soared since Corbyn became leader on a moderately social democratic platform,

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Of course, had Bernie actually won the majority of elected delegates, I’m sure the superdelegates would have either abstained or moved to back him instead of Clinton.

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Corbyn’s popularity is currently in the toilet (for reasons unrelated to Labour’s platform), so possibly not a great example.

There’s been a conflict between the activist base and party leaders for years. What’s new is the base is maybe getting some meaningful control.

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The Dems are to the Right of Reagan on most issues, certainly all economic ones. As you say, Nixon would be one of those dangerously Leftist Democrats the Party is trying to purge. Eisenhower would be a Loony Left Commie.

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Makes me wonder what Trump hero Teddy Roosevelt would be considered in today’s political climate.

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