The neo-medieval beliefs of Senator Josh Hawley

As well as Anglican and Quaker teachers.

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Basically any order or sect that understands inherently that blind faith alone ain’t gonna get you where you need to go.

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I think the best we can get are the Red Letter Christians, who have Bibles with everything that Jesus said in red. They claim to be apolitical, yet in practice they tend to be social liberals and socialists.

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I do worry about his sort of thing. I think of the country of Iran, which had a degree of secularism going for it, but then overnight it became a theocracy.

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“‘At the heart of liberty,’ Kennedy wrote, ‘is the right to define one’s own concept of existence, of meaning, of the universe, and of the mystery of human life.’ The fifth century church fathers were right to condemn this terrifying variety of heresy…”

It’s hilarious that a politician that is riding the coattails of the biggest misinformation campaign in recent history, would be opposed to people defining their “own concept of existence” given that the Trump cult he’s lying prostrate in front of have been living in their “own concept of existence” for the last 4 fucking years.

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They were secular, but it was also a harsh dictatorship, which is why the uprising that was eventually coopted by the hard Religious right was initially broadbased and very popular. The Shah was probably far worse than the current Theocratic government, actually.

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If I remember correctly Thomas was the only one who insisted on two-factor authentication.

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Well if that article in Christianity Today really was adapted from his commencement speech at a supposedly Christian university, I hope the faculty had a quiet word because his version of Pelagianism is nothing like any version I’ve come across. Plus even if it were a fair description of Pelagianism, pretty much every theologian accepts that what is termed Pelagianism may not bear much in common with what Pelagius himself thought or taught.

Exactly what Pelagius believed or taught is not at all clear but it certainly wasn’t “rich people are rich because they’re better than everyone else” or “you don’t need God to be saved”.

Exactly what he thought we don’t know because most of what we do know, we know through Augustine who was busily arguing against Pelagius and/or people who had been taught by Pelagius and doesn’t seem to have been above restating Pelagian arguments in a strawman form.

TLDR - Pelagianism is not the same as “beliefs held or taught by Pelagius”.

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Frustratingly I’ve had some similar experiences with devout Christians who think they are knowledgeable about their beliefs but can’t even articulate what specifically it takes to get into heaven, and it helps explain how they can embrace someone so unlike Jesus such as Donald Trump.

Rather than faith vs. good works, I characterize the difference as entitlement vs. good works Christians. Republicans tend to be entitlement Christians who think they are owed a trip to heaven which makes them a “good person”, the opposite of a good works Christians, who think they have to earn it by doing good works, which make them a good person

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So this poor carpenter, who hung out with lepers, prostitutes, unemployed tax collectors and fishermen, and said we should love and care for our fellow humans, rules over the entire planet with an iron fist?

I dare any non-Christian to read the Gospels and interpret their message as “conform or suffer.”

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Christ, what an asshole.

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God’s own blockchain?

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I was NOT expecting this to be about college students. Oy. :woman_facepalming:t2:

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Relatively common among white, middle and upper class students who’ve never had their world view challenged or especially those who went to Private right wing Christian schools (not all Christian schools, of course, are like that, even here).

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So what I see here is an addition to him openly supporting insurrection with bulshit arguments I now see he believes a type of worldview that wants to assign Christianity as right to everything.

I cannot come up with a more obnoxious viewpoint of reality right now if I tried.

Basically by Design I am opposed to everything he believes and I already was but this is further proof that they want Christian equivalent of sharia in this country and they won’t stop until everyone is going to Christian Church worshipping Jesus.

His entire view of reality is just as warped as his mind

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I should add that I’ve met a type of baptist entitlement christian who thinks doing good works to get into heaven is an affront to God, an insulting bribe to get into heaven. Hawley seems of that ilk of entitlement christian - “I don’t do good works and nobody else should either.”

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“Call upon God, but row away from the rocks!”
-Rev. Hunter S. Thompson

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Is what we have really freedom if I don’t have the freedom to enslave everyone else?

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Conservative freedom of speech = the right to silence other people.

Conservative freedom of religion = the right to impose your beliefs on other people.

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As a Missouri voter, sorry again. I didn’t vote for him…

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