You can be sure the GOP has a plan. All of the push-back has ceased, nobody is talking out criticizing Trump anymore, because the fix is in place. Its gone quiet out there. Yeah, too quiet.
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I believe the proper pronunciation of Kaisch is âly-ing wea-sel dick-nutsâ.
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Overcast with strong chance of meteors.
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Who here has said that? Also, consider what Clinton supporters were saying 8 years ago when the boot was on the other foot.
If Obama is nominated, just 47% of Clinton voters say they are even somewhat likely to vote for Obama in the general election against John McCain.
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Winning because you are âNot the Republicanâ does not make a âgoodâ candidate. It just means youâll probably win, assuming an Independent or third party doesnât steal the election due to an election process that encourages electing shitbags over more agreeable candidates. Itâs a pretty sad state of affairs that people will generally be voting not for the candidate they want to win, but for the candidate that isnât a horrific fascist that must be stopped. I think, if anything, this election is really demonstrating the need for a better election system beyond one person one vote for a single candidate (and no the delegate system is not a better system). Why canât we have ranked choice voting?
I have, generally in the form of âSanders canât win because Clinton will get the black voteâ, or âSanders is only winning in states with white votersâ.
Someday weâll get to the point where we can just vote for people based on their views and performance, and not their level of estrogen or melanin. I might never see this day. Iâve been called a sexist/misogynist by some people in my immediate family who are generally very level headed, because I oppose Clinton vehemently. Oddly, they did the same when it was Obama versus Clinton (I voted for neither), despite me asking if they were racist for opposing Obama in favor of Clinton.
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You mean âindependent old JewâŚâ
To lots of Americans (including many Jews), Jews are not âwhite.â
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To some people, Sanders is only Jew-ish.
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If your grandparents died in the Holocaust and your father fled Poland to America as a result, Iâm pretty sure youâre still a Jew regardless of the kvetching by some.
This is just pro-Israeli complaining.
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They donât hate him, they just arenât as familiar with him as they are with the Clintons. Itâs basically a name recognition thing.
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I like Jello Biafraâs version betterâŚ
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Maybe because of this:
âSocialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.â
John Steinbeck
http://www.temporarilyembarrassedmillionaires.org
Maybe aspirational African-Americans i.e. Blacks who voteâbecause the vast majority of minorities donâtâhave bought the American Myth to a degree where they prefer being temporarily embarrassed millionaires to feeling like one of the exploited masses.
Just a theory.
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I have an idea! Letâs wait till the primary is over before we start pressuring Bernie supporters to unite behind Hillary.
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The Jew-ish thing is going to loom large. I canât see how America will vote for a Jew considering the Shenanigans that was caused by the Kennedys being Catholicâand they had money and a whole organisation, behind them. Sanders biggest issue is his non-Christian (and even worse, non-religious) Humanist approach to life and the universe, voting Americans tend to be not too keen on that kind of measured non-missionary style of politics.
Just to make you feel better it is not vastly different on this side of the Atlantic: Miliband Jew-ish-ness didnât do him any favours in the 2015 UK General Election either. Not sure if there has been a single notable political figure in recent decades in the Western Hemisphere who profess to be Jewishâdepressing but probably true. In the UK it is easier to name politicians who profess to be Muslim than politicians who are jew-ish to any degree.
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OK, if opposition to LBJ was what you mean by his 1968 mistake, not his support for McCarthy (or Kennedy first?), then you might have a point. It might or might not have been a historical mistake for the left to get LBJ out; he was certainly the best president to happen to civil rights since Lincoln, and he was a strong advocate for New Deal policies. That said, for all his nastiness, Nixon did end the war that the JFK-LBJ administration began, and the internal conflict in the Democratic party in '68 did curb the damaging tradition of back-room politics, at least for a while. Moreover, in many ways Nixon seems like a socialist compared to many mainstream Democrats today.
I sign-waved for LBJ in '64, but stayed away in '68. My sister was in Grant Park protesting. What was HRC up to then?
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I think Tom Hayden expressed his concern about solidarity with dem POC and women in good faith. The opinion deserves a civil, charitable hearing on the merits.[/quote]
As I mentioned in my post, solidarity with your friends and allies is a good thing, but it is a weak reason if their reasons for supporting their candidate are weak. Thatâs why it was asked upthread what reasons Haydenâs friends have for thinking Clinton will be better for civil rights than Sanders. Voting to express solidarity with your friends is like voting to express solidarity with your spouse, or your father: it is a great thing provided you also agree with their decision!
Perhaps Hayden is being canny: writing what he does to publicly express support for his friends, but then he will actually vote for Sanders. Win-win. Likewise, Sanders supporters should insist they would never vote for Clinton, then vote for Clinton in the general. Just like Clinton voters did in 2008.
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Might also help that almost all African-Americans vote Democrat - they just donât vote GOP at all. So theyâre going to represent a broader spread of opinions - i.e. which probably means they average out more conservative than the general Dem vote - i.e. theyâre Clinton voters. Plus, she was part of the Obama administration, and Sanders has been critical of it.
Michael Howard?
Gerald Kaufman? (although heâs got himself in trouble with anti-semitic sounding comments recentlyâŚ
John Bercow is Jewish, apparently.
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Might have something to do with a ârevolutionaryâ candidate being very âmehâ about your causes while pushing âsystemic changeâ that kind of avoids the issues you care about. It sounds a lot like your issues are going to be ignored or bargaining chips for ideas that seem to be coming from another planet.
They are bit actors in the greater scheme of things. No Western European country has had a Jewish leader since the 2nd WW as I far as I can seeâwhich is rather depressing.
There have been several Jewish governors and mayors in the US (and of course Senators and Congresspeople), even outside of New York.
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