Trailer of Dune

That’s him for sure

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“The test is simple. Remove your hand from the box, and you die.”

“What’s in the box?”

2020 Pain.”

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The best thing to come from Dune in the last couple decades:

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Saw the trailer, thought - ‘holy shit, i’m all in for this’. Even loved the Floyd cover
Reading the comments afterwards tempers one’s excitement somewhat! So, caveats but anticipation is still high…

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I think Jihad has acquired new meanings since the book was written so they took it out of the movie.

Also: finally a good use for Dark Side of the Moon. I knew it had to be the sound track of a movie somewhere.

I hope I can see this in the cinema post lock down.

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They’re splitting the first book across 2 movies. Likely he’ll be appearing in the second one, from what I understand he’s not all that much of a presence in the book till fairly late.

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See, the trick is to not GAF about what other people think. I, too, am excited about this, because I have really enjoyed everything I’ve seen from Villeneuve, and this cast is very promising, too. And I’m not gonna let a few people complaining about a desert looking like a desert, or a song in a three-minute trailer not being exactly what they expected, or insisting on interpreting a stylized “E” as a “C” for internet points or whatever, ruin something I’ve only seen glimpses of.

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Well sure, i guess i’m just very easily led by popular opinion on certain things and although i’ve read the first book twice through quite obviously that is nowhere near enough times to know it. In my mind though the Atreides family were always kinda dull and monochromatic so i don’t quite get that criticism but i expect Arrakis to look incredible on an imax screen with just a soupçon of CGI applied in all the right places.

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I got halfway through the first Thomas Covenant book, and to the end of the first chapter of “A Game of Thrones”, I’ve not even started on “Dune”; I think I’m pretty good at bailing early. :smiley:

I hate sand.

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I assumed they filtered some sort of algae out of the sand; but I guess that doesn’t make much sense. What would the algae live off?

“Who are you?”
“My… my name is… Tod.”
“Todd?! What kind of name is that for a galactic hero?!”
“No… My name is Tod… It means… DEATH… and who said I was a galactic hero?”

Sometimes people can watch the film and complete misunderstand the subject matter.

Yeah, that reminded my of LEXX. :smiley:

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Imperial planetogist Liet Kynes explained:

Now they had the circular relationship: little maker to pre-spice mass; little maker to shai-hulud; shai-hulud to scatter the spice upon which fed microscopic creatures called sand plankton; the sand plankton, food for shaihulud, growing, burrowing, becoming little makers.

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Herbert’s books were an inversion of this myth - a warning against hero-worship. That makes them waaayyy more interesting to me than Star Wars.

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It is the Duncan Rhodes bio-pic we’ve been waiting for for years.

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Interestingly the books never actually specified that the “'thopters” were propelled by flapping wings. The books did note that the wings were articulated but also mentioned some kind of jet turbine for thrust. So it’s been up to each adaptation to interpret what the craft were “really” supposed to look like.

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Nobody knows, it’s just one of the rules.

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Yes.

From the Department of “This Is Why We Can’t Have Nice Things,” I wonder how long it will take for the loony white supremacy crowd to appropriate whatever they find convenient about that word “crusade” over the word “jihad.”

A reading of the glossary in the back of the book Dune quickly reveals plenty of Arabic word borrowings:

Yes. I am grateful for people of color I see cast here. And the fact that Villeneuve got international actors involved is also nothing but good IMO.

What a missed opportunity though to have no callbacks AFAICT to the underpinnings of the culture, the world-building he (Villeneuve) created for us.

Yeah, heaven forfend any intrusion of institutionalized oppression, violence, pillage of resources, economic inequality, greed, corruption, war, murder, etc. in the movie or book be compared with oh, reality. Who knows what they are missing re the subject matter of the book, but those who argue the mechanics of the story are “fantasy fiction” are missing… something… big and important to be sure.

Brian Eno was in charge of the “Prophecy Theme” in Lynch’s version of the film, and I sense an additional nod as there are ethereal qualities in both Pink Floyd’s and Eno’s work.

Thanks for posting this. I had missed it entirely. Well done.

I sincerely hope the ecological message (one of the many messages in the book) will find a receptive and active new audience of thinkers and doers.


Stuff I did not know about the book and its publication woes:

https://www.barnesandnoble.com/blog/sci-fi-fantasy/10-things-you-might-not-know-about-dune/

Wot? Kynes was to be the main character?!?!?
Hmm. Explains much, now that I think about it.

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It’s because modern trailers are produced by trailer specific companies. Subcontractors in the ad business who usually haven’t seen any more of the film than a summary, market research, and whatever footage they are handed.

Almost always well before the film is finished, and under the direction of the studio marketing department rather than the actual creatives.

So these “rules” are an easy way to generate an emotional response, fan speculation etc.

Sort of like how movie posters are equal parts awful and identical these days.

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I finished the first one and started the second one. Honestly, it was more depressing than… er, 2020.

On the other hand, I loved Dune but as noted above, it’s diminishing returns after the first one.

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Yes. And then Herbert goes on to author book after book after book in this series, all with uh hero-like characters in them. It’s a bit hard to take some days, but I get it that reading books about big characters doing epic things on a vast scale of time-space is just gonna sell much better.

I hear you. Totally with you on this.

https://www.starwars.com/news/mythic-discovery-within-the-inner-reaches-of-outer-space-joseph-campbell-meets-george-lucas-part-i

Star Wars was ok for me but not nearly as ambitious and interesting as Dune or Star Trek for that matter (because: science).

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I saw some kissing in that trailer. There is no kissing in Dune. Drug tripping, enslaving, nuking, stabbing, torturing, poisoning, sure.

But no freaking kissing.

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