Find common ground. It will be hard to do while maintaining an air of righteous indignation, so you might have to knock that off.
Here’s some common ground: A lot of people voted republican in spite of Trump, not because of him, just like a lot of people voted democrat in spite of Hillary (@oldtaku represent). It looks to me like the groups of people who are staunch Trump supporters (for all his talk he could just barely fill a convention center at times) or staunch Hillary supporters are both dwarfed by the group of people who feel that their political values were not adequately represented in this election.
It seems like a lot of people on both “sides” would agree that the US electoral process needs some sort of drastic overhaul. I’d suggest a system based on proportional representation. Then the third parties that get discussed so much become serious options, which means they get serious investment from serious donors who expect them to field serious candidates instead of whoever the fuck these people are. Rich assholes can start their own political parties and they will get an accurate minority of votes, instead of your two majority parties getting so fucking lazy with the status quo that one of them ends up getting hijacked by the lunatic fringe.
It’s just a thought. Maybe you’d like to contribute something constructive too, instead of bickering over who it was that fucked you.
I dont want to devolve into history lessons. But, their denazification, while flawed (due to the Cold War), certainly changed the culture of future generations. To say that the denazification that was achieved was not considerable is to ignore the facts. (East Germany doesnt even enter into it-- it just exchanged one totalitarian regime for another.)
Germany paid billions of reparations to Israel. Germany taught their school children about the actual events and crimes of the Nazi regime. Young Germans didnt want to be Nazis. Even in the '80s, younger Germans expressed anguish over not being “allowed” to be patriotic, because of the attached stigma. (Compare this to the lack of reeducation of the South, or the very lukewarm reeducation of Japan after WW2.)
This, to several orders of magnitude. I’ve posted here several times to the effect that the Democrats were going to regret letting the grifting Clinton family and all their grifter hangers-on treat the Democratic party like a parasitic wasp treats a caterpillar. Nobody, but nobody, wanted to hear what I was saying.
One thing I am going to enjoy in the near, grim, future, is monitoring the trendline of donations to the Clinton Foundation. I’m predicting a downturn.
58 million people did not all go to trump rallies. I expect plenty of Dem rallies will have equivalent “sexist pig” shirts and stuff like that. Come on. That’s not what swings an election, not this massively.
81% of white Evangelicals or born again Christians voted for Trump. That makes them the largest demographic other than Republicans in general. They caused a 17% swing in the overall vote towards Trump, who would have had only 35% of the vote otherwise.
Jesus Christ. I know you’re under shock and probably you didn’t sleep, but man. Are you trying to fit into the new Officially Bigot America? Because you’re doing great.
A while back, during the DAPL incident, they bulldozed over a Native American Burial Ground after told not to do so. I think that’s the Standing Rock Curse taking effect.
As an African American, I’m scared of the possibility of WW3.
this is not my experience, I couldn’t name even a handful of persons in my age-group (i.e. born around 1980) communicating interest in some “German Patriotism” - sure, I cannot talk for everyone, but this seems to be true even outside of my peer group with similar views and interests.
Waving flags* is still not a common pastime, though this was allegedly changed in 2006 with the football world cup in 2006 - out of sudden patrotism got more hip (don’t take my word for it, football bores me and I mask everything related to it out)
Well @beschizza, I hope that you think about your role in all of this. Your non-stop stream of Trump stories is part of the relentless publicity machine that got Trump elected.
I defended Clinton from the hilariously bad narrative pushed against her, but I was not on the she will win easily bandwagon and I’ve talked to my opinion that the Midwest is far more racist and sexist than Texas having traveled all over both. In the end that deep seated hatred won the day, mostly out of fear and that’s disappointing.
Even so giving the US GOP complete control again is a disaster just like it have been every single time it happened before and who will the rural voter blame when their candidates do absolutely nothing to help them? Probably push for more executive powers.
I also don’t think Bernie Sanders or Joe Biden would win. Exit polls show people feel Trump is close to their beliefs and that Clinton was looney-bin crazy left wing which is a hard stink to wash off.
I’m glad that I’m going to be fine after all this but that it will do long term damage to my daughters life. The only real hope is that Trump doesn’t even attempt to fulfil his campaign promises which are universally terrible.
At least, it’s proof that “the Wall St consensus” is not majority, it never was. They can tilt the scale at times, when it’s tight elsewhere, but they are not majority on their own. This is a silver lining, if you will.
given the millions who stand to lose their health care the next time the house and senate vote to repeal obamacare, no it isn’t. anything that starts from trump is unlikely to be a good start for anything.
This is a global disaster.
I haven’t felt this sick since September 11, 2001.
Watching the poll results come in was like watching two planes slowly, slowly crashing into the World Trade Centers.
the thing is, you wanted her to lose so you could sit back and say “i told you so.” your smugness is more important than all the pain and death this result will cause. you are condemned by your own words as inhuman and monstrous.
O du lieber Augustin, alles ist hin. 
