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Exactly. And the Democrats wonder who nobody in the flyover states outside of Chicago voted for her. You think she might just be a little out of touch?
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EVERYBODY LISTEN: CALM DOWN.
Berlusconi was going to do all sorts: miracles, bridges, kicking out negr- cough migrants, destroy mosques etc etc.
What did he do, over 20 years? Fuck all. He basically made sure he couldn’t be prosecuted for his various tax frauds, sorted his personal fortune, kinda wasted a bunch of money, had naked swims with Putin, shagged a lot of birds, made a handful of bad laws that were soon ignored as unworkable in practice. He had quite the supermajority at times, and still he didn’t appoint himself pope-emperor or started a war with Albania.
These millionaire types, they like a good time. They are all words.
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I can only hope and pay that you’re right
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Bullshit. Sanders would have made short work of Trump.I believe many Trump voters weren’t votinf for Trump, they were voting against neoliberalism.
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Now I know how Romney’s team felt after the 2012 election.
I know the polls indicated a Trump victory a real possibility, but honestly, in my heart I knew that that sort of tragedy wasn’t actually possible.
And I’d lived under Rob Ford (‘Trump-lite’) for four years.
sigh
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Thanks to all here that have the sense and common decency not to paint 320 million people with the same broad brush.
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Rob Ford was only a mayor. This is way worse.
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Last night I was very careful to avoid the news media and most of the internet. My spouse and I went out to eat tacos and then watch Dr. Strange a second time, and I spent the rest of the night making electronic music.
This morning I feel like I’ve woken up in the wrong timeline.
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Well, no. I’m on record somewhere, saying I placed my bet on Trump so I had a personal silver lining if shit hit the fan. Clinton wasn’t even the nominee back then - a Trump presidency is bad on its own terms, regardless of who is on the other side. But it was clear from the beginning that Clinton was probably one of the worst possible candidate to run against him. If having a brain makes me a monster, so be it.
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Without Sanders in 2020 (presuming the dude would like to retire at some point in life), I’m thinking Warren. But, the next 4 years will be a horse race to see if the Dems can muster more than two viable candidates.
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Oh, agreed in spades. But somehow I’d assumed the same impulse that propelled Ford to victory wouldn’t, nay, couldn’t hold when the most powerful position on the planet was at stake.
Oops.
It’s mighty tempting to. Even people who voted against Trump often don’t see what the real problem was.
Told ya, back in July!!
Of course, instead of blaming themselves, Hillary, and their alienation from the working class, Clinton’s supporters will blithely continue to blame others. It’ll take a second win for Trump to maybe, just maybe change things. In the meanwhile, all the people who got it wrong, keep getting it wrong, and have no intentions of ever changing will keep being asked for their opinions.
Of course, in the interim it’ll be a a disaster. But, to be sure, it would also have been a disaster if Clinton had won. At least with Trump, it’ll be a new exciting disaster.
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Well. . . I’m not going to read through all these comments here, so if someone has already said this forgive me, but the one thing to remember: now the GOP has to try and deliver on Trump’s promises, which are physically impossible (a border wall paid for by Mexico), unconstitutional (restricting Muslims) and/or economic death sentences (a trade war with China.) Plus factor in the weird gymnastics of trying to repeal and replace Obamacare with something more conservative, and the eternal pipe dream of tax cuts for the rich magically helping the middle class, and you can expect a lot of disillusioned Trump voters in 2020.
Perhaps giving America’s mouth-breathing dumb-asses exactly what they want is the only way to show them how clueless they are.
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This way the opposition can be blamed for the right-wingers failures. Fun! Will it take the form of “we lost the war at home” or “they stabbed us in the back!”?
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They haven’t bothered trying to deliver before, why start now?
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Anyone who has ever taken a picture with HRC is now a really hard proposition.
Dems will have to be very creative. But they have 4 years, there is time.
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…she was astonishingly tone-deaf, aloof, compromised by questionable ethics, in denial and indifferent about grotesque inequality, etc. She lost because she was not the right candidate for the times. Blame a Democratic party that was more concerned with political alliances than substance. Let’s also not forget that, to some extent, Clinton is responsible for inflicting Trump on us. It was her campaign that implored sympathetic media to ‘elevate’ his candidacy and to ‘take him seriously’. (And Bill’s phone call encouraging him to run).
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I was hoping you could explain it to me.
There are some voters here who have said that they voted for Obama twice and didn’t get what they were hoping for, so this time they’re voting for Trump.
I don’t understand what they’re hoping to get from two totally different people.
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