Correction: want a war. These people live in an apocalyptic fantasy where they get to run around shooting people and it will be viewed in a noble light. Some of them join the military with this in mind, but others don’t actually want any kind of commitment like that. They just want to feel self-righteous and secretly want to shoot people. It’s a power fantasy mixed with a whole lot of toxic masculinity. I wish they’d just play video games instead. We literally make all of them just for people like that.
They already got the CFO of Trump Corp under indictment. They are building up the case.
In terms of a presidential election those votes always go towards electing delegates to the EC. And as those delegates come from the parties through the conventions and primaries, the GOP would have their delegates vote for their replacement.
There’s nothing much theoretical about it outside of how a party would select a replacement, and whether they could control their delegates. Both seem like kind of a push for the current GOP.
I could see them using it as an excuse in a loss, but it’d be a pretty big “we couldn’t get our shit together and it’s your fault” moment. For lower offices it’s down to the individual states, and there are explicit laws dictating how it’s done. It’s not free for all.
And how does that interact with the “faithless elector” laws?
Denied the opportunity to use their talents in the service of their country, they began to operate what they called ‘The Operation’. They would select a victim and then threaten to beat him up if he paid the so-called protection money. Four months later they started another operation which the called ‘The Other Operation’. In this racket they selected another victim and threatened not to beat him up if he didn’t pay them. One month later they hit upon ‘The Other Other Operation’. In this the victim was threatened that if he didn’t pay them, they would beat him up. This for the Piranha brothers was the turning point.
Trump’s still working on his plan.
Not all video games are violent shooters. Pretty sure Undertale was not made for them.
Thank you for that clarification. I must have missed it in my 30 years in the video game industry.
It doesn’t. The faithless elector concept deals with what these people do once they are selected as electors, after the vote.
We do not directly vote for the president in this country. We select electors who do that.
After that point, I’m not familiar with how each state that has a law explicitly barring faithless electors address this particular point. Or if they even do. But that would largely be a concern of after the vote having taken place, and electors selected. But before they’ve met to formally “elect” the president.
The simple answer in that case is they would just hold to their parties/the results, and as electors are partisan actors I don’t see much reason to expect otherwise. Most states apportion all electors to the winner of their in state popular vote. So all of their electors would be bound to the same candidate/party to begin with.
So for Trump purposes we’re assuming a situation where he won in the actual election, but dies in the 5ish weeks between that and the EC vote.
Before that point it’s during or following the primaries and conventions. And thus party delegates. If you look at situations where a candidate drops out during the primaries, their delegates are “released” to vote for whoever they’d like to and they are then whipped at the convention. From what I understand the likely response to a candidate dying post convention, pre-election. Is reconvening the delegates, to redo it.
TFG, Dotard 45, is a wiener and a whiner, a looser and a moran (in the MAGA idiom). We must prepare to defend the republic from the crazed savage horde.
That assumes that the electors are all of the same mind as to who Trump’s One True Heir is. In Trump’s case, he specifically picks nebishes like Pence for running mates: people with no power base of their own in the Party. Popcorn time!
Legally, there’s no precedent nor law covering the succession between certification of the election and inauguration. Sure, the sensible thing would be the Presidential Succession Act – but that’s not what’s in any of the law so there’s plenty of room for mischief, much like the way that our crazy-complex election kabuki offers.
Can’t fight the seether
Wait - the seether is Louise!
Can’t we just build a set a la Truman Show, with a White House and a simulated Twitter account and whatnot, and let him rattle around inside that until he drops dead?
Another election? Did he enjoy losing so much that he wants to lose again?
He’ll be beaten like an orangeman’s drum in marching season.
Good idea. We wouldn’t even need many actors or extras - he can’t really remember who is who on his staff, and when he speaks at his “rallies” there’s only a few hundred or so people. We could use real redcaps, too. Just give them some kind of prize for being in the studio audience and they’ll happily play along.
It would be basically pulling a reverse Eddie Belcher.
Each state’s laws for selecting electors will apply and they will still select a state slate to do the normally bland electoral college voting in January, which will be hotly contested. The details for each state differ by party (major party- independent) and state. Here’s Ohio’s relevant statute. Section 3513.31 - Ohio Revised Code | Ohio Laws
This is one of the most majestic things I have ever seen.
Yeah which is why I was saying it’s a bit of a push for the modern GOP to keep any of it under control.
With how the EC works the clear path is a process akin to the released delegates. Where the GOP’s electors sorta figure it out, the party expressing pressure on them to go a particular way.
But that’s only a thing in that one month window. Likewise post certification pre-swear in. Both presume that Trump has won. And there’s little sense in the GOP challenging the validity of an election they won, over a presidency they control. Internal squabbling would turn it into a shit show for sure.
But by the time electors are involved, there isn’t much in the way of “cancelling the election” involved.
And “our candidate who lost is dead so you have to give the presidency to our new candidate” isn’t really a plausible thing.
Prior to that point, you’ve got the intra-party process and delegates. It just doesn’t make sense to me that they’d pre-emptively attempt to cancel the election. A thing that not only has no precedent or process behind it, but no allotment in the law or plausible arguments behind it. Before even trying another candidate.
It’s a lot more likely that they would try to challenge a loss, after the fact. Especially if a death happened very close to the election. And there is a hell of a lot of precedent, if not from presidential elections, on how that goes (the results stand).
The cancel the election fears were largely rooted in Trump and the GOP unilaterally controlling the federal government, and the majority of states. And what they all might do to hang onto that.
That isn’t the case currently.
Trump, Ayyadurai, the My Pillow guy - it’s deranged grifters all the way down.