Trump pardons Joe Arpaio

They love and cherish family values!

It’s right there in the Fourteen Words!

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Mother fucker.

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Conversely, I can’t think of a clearer way to indicate that anyone who denies latinos of their civil rights (including voting rights) will likely be protected by this administration.

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Fuck the deranged orange fuckweasel. Fuckity fuckfuckfuckfuck. And his little sheriff too!

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They tried their best…

(But they were on vacation)

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The problem here is huge - who Arpaio is and what he’s done is pretty much irrelevant to the significance. From the NY Times article that was linked above:

“The only effective means courts have to prevent or stop governmental violations of constitutional rights is through injunctions. But injunctions have teeth only when they have the potential of a contempt conviction behind them. In other words, in issuing an injunction, a court is saying, “stop doing that or else.” The “or else” is a criminal conviction for contempt, leading to a fine, imprisonment or both. Absent the “or else,” the injunction is all but meaningless.
But if the president signals to government agents that there exists the likelihood of a pardon when they violate a judicial injunction that blocks his policies, he can all too easily circumvent the only effective means of enforcing constitutional restrictions on his behavior. Indeed, the president could even secretly promise a pardon to agents if they undertake illegal activity he desires.”

In other words, the president has unchecked powers, allowing his agents to violate the constitution willy-nilly without recourse as long as he’s in office. It becomes that much more difficult to remove him, that being the case, too.

You’re still acting like Trump’s mental model involves things like independent reality and “facts.”

Given up what? Advancing their business interests? Because that’s all they were ever doing.

Not going to happen, I’m afraid it’s only going to get worse. As someone pointed out, we’re in Nazi Germany territory here - we’ve now revealed that a third the country wants another third dead, while the remaining third is ambivalent about taking a stand.

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I can’t bring myself to “like” this. It’s too real, too close, too “how the everloving Flying fucking Spaghetti fucking Monster did we go from President Obama to this marginally sentient orange oompa-loompa of a penis” in the space of one night?

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The only check is impeachement. Majority of the House, 2/3 of the senate.

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This guy makes a good point that the nature of the pardon (that is, pardoning someone for being held in contempt of federal court) is less important than the reason why the pardonee was held in contempt in the first place, and what the pardon says about how the administration – and the president in particular – thinks the law is to be applied in the US.

tl;dr: it’s not a bug in the scope of pardons, it’s a bug in the moral compass of the person issuing them (that is to say, Lord High Fuckweasel’s moral compass works like the one in the first Pirates of the Caribbean movie).

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The one bright spot here is that there was some analysis done before this*, that if he actually went through with the pardon, it would be an impeachable offense. Unfortunately, whatever happens to Trump, the truth about America that’s been revealed by his election will remain…

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I am accustomed to hearing about pardons in the last days of a presidency. How common is it for pardons to be given mid (or early) in a president’s term?

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Sources close to Jared and Ivanka say they’re still trying really, really, hard.

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:slight_smile:

To be serious for a moment: apparently Jared’s real main role is as ambassador to the Saudis. Weird, but there it is.

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Impeachment is a political process, not a legal one. Essentially the only factor that determines whether an offense is “impeachable” is whether it’s something a majority of Congress is willing to impeach the President for.

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to the absolute surprise of no one!

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