At this point, whether she’s lying or actually believes it’s a fact is immaterial to the misinformation she’s spreading. She should be informed once that she’s simply wrong and shown the evidence. She’s been shown the evidence. So now every time someone tries to bring it up, you need to tell them they can’t be taken seriously anymore and that their “information” will be ignored.
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Rejoice, citizens! Wine rations have been increased to three-and-a-half ounces!
Shirley you mean “Victory Gin”.
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I considered saying the same but in a broader scope what with every point in the ideological spectrum reinventing the truth to serve their agenda.
I missed the godometer announcement
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There are, it has been said, two types of people in the world. There are those who, when presented with a glass that is exactly half full, say: this glass is half full. And then there are those who say: this glass is half empty.
The world belongs, however, to those who can look at the glass and say: What’s up with this glass? Excuse me? Excuse me? This is my glass? I don’t think so. My glass was full! And it was a bigger glass! Who’s been pinching my beer?
And at the other end of the bar the world is full of the other type of person, who has a broken glass, or a glass that has been carelessly knocked over (usually by one of the people calling for a larger glass) or who had no glass at all, because he was at the back of the crowd and had failed to catch the barman’s eye.
Terry Pratchett, The Truth
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This half-full glass is all very well, but I ordered pizza.
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No. [quote=“Footface, post:80, topic:90462”]
We don’t care what’s true because it’s irrelevant to us getting what we want"?
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Yes.
You’re welcome! 
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Apparently there are people are there doing physics with a non positivist world view. I can’t even begin to imagine what that would look like.
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Another tactic by Trump and his surrogates and supporters I’ve noticed a lot in the past year is challenging opponents to prove that something didn’t happen or to provide evidence that something didn’t happen, which is, of course, usually impossible to do. The claim of people ineligible to vote voting is a good example of this. If people voted illegally, then theoretically you should be able to provide evidence that it happened. But when Trump is called on to provide such evidence, his response is to throw it back and say, “well you don’t have any evidence that it didn’t happen.” Trump and his people have used this tactic time and time again over the past year, and it’s kind of sneakily genius. The average person is probably not knowledgable enough to realize you can’t generally provide evidence that something didn’t happen. I mean, what would that look like? Negative evidence? Anti-evidence? But half the people, roughly, fall for this and say, “aha! He called them out and they couldn’t prove it didn’t happen!” I’m not sure how to combat this. Maybe ask them to prove Santa doesn’t exist?
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It’s the oldest trick in the book. It’s shifting the burden of proof for an unevidenced claim onto the person you’re making the claim to, and in my everyday life, it’s grounds for me to completely write off whatever they have to say.
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At which point, Plato kicks Rove in the nuts and walks away.
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God appeared to me as a flaming garbage fire and told me that argument doesn’t work.
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Buddhist: The glass and the water and the air are all material things, and thus transient. None of them truly exist. Everything is empty.
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Now I’m thinking this needs to be a new game; where we pick a topic and then the participants post examples of how people who fit stereotypical archetypes would deal with it.
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If it’s not Scottish it’s crap!
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This argument was a lot more fun back when I was having it in the third hour of a graduate seminar on the philosophy of history.
And it was no fucking fun at all then.
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Trumpist: Turn the glass inside-out so it’s half full on the outside.
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Nope. He doesn’t have the attention span to get past page 4.
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Everyone sees through a glass dimly. But that’s not an excuse to scratch a fantasy world onto the inside of your window and refuse to believe the marauders are setting your house on fire when you’re warned by the sooty-faced neighbors.
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Scientist: “What the fuck is half-full water?!”
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