"Trumpian Anarchy"

The left side of the chart appears to be what the GOP would openly say… and the right side indicates the unsaid fact. Based on that, shouldn’t “Trump Supporters” and “Anarchists” locations on the chart be reversed?


No, because they aren’t anarchists and never will be without some 180 degree turns in their beliefs. The Republicans are trying to claim that the riots were caused by left wing infiltrators, when they did it all on their own.

Do you seriously think that David Graeber (RIP) would have been involved in what happened on Wednesday?


Some repubs are claiming it was anarchists who staged the coup. Actual anarchists are offended at being lumped in with those assholes.


Again, I believe that the positioning does not follow the logic of the chart which is otherwise consistent (i.e., Lie/Truth).

Anyway, I didn’t realize that some people believe that all anarchists were good, moral people. I’ve always gone by the following definition which, in my mind, covers the good and the bad.

Merriam-Webster Definition of anarchist

1 : a person who rebels against any authority, established order, or ruling power

2 : a person who believes in, advocates, or promotes anarchism or anarchy especially: one who uses violent means to overthrow the established order

Based on all of the above, in this discussion (the chart logic), employing Graeber amounts to a red herring.

I don’t. See my comment about Hakim Bey from yesterday.

Dictionaries are not good at describing political and philosophical positions. It’s not their purpose.

How would you describe Donald Trump over the last four years? How do the Trumpists see him, on a scale from anarchism to totalitarianism?

To claim that the Trumpists are anarchists (people who believe in radical egalitarianism, and have done for over 150 years) is as dishonest as claiming Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are communists. You are not Donald Trump, so stop it.

If you really want a word to describe their actions, use anomie.

Merriam-Webster Definition of anomie

: social instability resulting from a breakdown of standards and values


I think the first point disproves the claim:
a person who rebels against any authority, established order, or ruling power

They are not rebelling against any authority, they are rebelling against the peaceful transfer of power to a Democratic government.

They are authoritarians and fascists, who want to install Donald as their king and tyrant.


It made sense to the person who designed it and it seems to make sense to everybody else here

Perhaps the GOP has abandoned their “it was antifa” trial balloon, but they did say it, it was a thing


Well, at this point all I can say is that my argument was in good faith.

No. Not “everybody”.

blaming anarchists for fascist violence is slandering anarchists and excusing fascism

we can do this all day


anarchy ≠ lawlessness

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They are accusing Antifa, which has come to mean far left when used by the GOP and people on the right, but really just means people who are sane and who oppose fascism. They use “socialism” and “marxism” in a similar fashion and do not actually understand any of the underlying political views.


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