Trump's lawyers appear to have really screwed up in his fraud trial

Let’s see… $250M divided by the 74M people who voted for the Mango Mussolini comes to…

::punches numbers into a TI30::

$3.38 for each dunderhead who voted for him.

Remind any Trumpanista you know that’s all it’s going to cost them.

Also remind them that Trump sure as hell ain’t gonna pay it.

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From my reading of the judge’s summary judgement, part of the reasoning for continuing the trial is to determine if there were any further damages in counts 2 through 7 as a result of the fraud and if so, the appropriate remedy. The judgment so far only talks about disgorgement and the canceling of ongoing business permits as permanent injunctive relief due to the defendants’ “propensity to engage in persistent fraud”. (starting on page 7).

Note that the trial is not going to determine further guilt or innocence - that ship has sailed. Trump has already been found guilty of fraud. The only remaining question is to what the punishment will be and how to go about dismantling his business operations in New York

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Naw, that’s TOTALLY the face of someone thinking, “Imma gonna change my last name the second I turn 18.”

Cuz I would.

“Hi, I’m Barron Knauss. But my friends call me Barry.”

(Ha! Get it?)

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Remember that Trump’s supporters voted for a (supposed) Billionaire business mogul who lived atop a Manhattan skyscraper emblazoned with his own name in giant gold letters because they wanted to stick it to the “coastal elites.”

So Trump smearing a judge as someone who frequents the “clubhouses” fits right in that pattern.

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Even if he paid in full on time, he would STILL have crap lawyers because he fires* lawyers that give him good legal advice instead to telling him what he wants to hear. He simply does not understand legal proceedings as a method of finding out the truth, not even in theory. Abuse of process is all he understands, and he is used to using the courts to bully those that can’t afford to go to court against him.

*Is it really getting fired if you were never paid?

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Eh. He’s shown even the dumbest of them that he’ll leave them out to dry after they run afoul of the law on his behalf.

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trump will whine how he “didn’t even get a jury!” sad!

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It’s a reference to Tammany Hall and its supposed Democratic machine clubhouse successors in New York City and NY state.

It’s stupid on a number of levels: except for a small group of people familiar with NYC political history, most people will be puzzled by it; shady local machine politics in the city isn’t what it used to be, certainly not close to being able to mount a vendetta as he claims; a
during the machine’s last moments of power, von Clownstick was right there at the clubhouse favour bank along with every other rapacious property developer in town during the '80s; and finally, during his occupation of the White House he turned his DC hotel and his crummy Florida resort into exactly the kinds of dens of political corruption he’s now pretending to deplore.

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Considering he said “they know I cannot get a fair trial in New York!”, before it was decided he was getting a jury or bench trial, doesn’t seem like he expected a jury trial to be easy.

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Did anyone see him rant on lunch break today?

I think he wants to loose so he can appeal right through the election. The more he convinces his supporters he’s getting screwed the more money they send him.

Any way, he was really angry this afternoon as he was speaking, he’s terrified.

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If I were his lawyer, I would probably stipulate that the multi-million $ retainer is non-refundable. That way even if he fires me, I still get paid.

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During Lyndon Johnson’s 1948 Senate runoff election, there were all sorts of shenanigans going on in LBJ’s 91-vote win. But when Coke Stevenson was going to Court to get an injunction against certain ballots being counted (the infamous Precinct 13), LBJ told Abe Fortas that he needed to win – but Fortas told him “no, we need to lose as soon as possible” - so he could start appealing the case, which he did (and ultimately won).

There’s a little of that here – take the L in trial court and drag any appeal until well into 2025 – so he can rail against the unfairness of it all.

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He’s acting.

Sally Struthers like acting.

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In my state the rules have changed and now every civil case is assigned to jury trial unless all parties sign a stipulation to waive a jury trial.

ETA: But yeah, it’s mostly as you described. Even with the rule change, attorneys here are too nervous not to serve a jury demand.

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I don’t think he even keeps money in the banana stand

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Even if something goes wrong with the pre-nup, she’ll probably do fine out of the book deals and movie rights.

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Yes. That is Alina Habba, his lead co-counsel on this case and active in many things MAGA. She is a managing partner of her firm, and a full-on Trump believer. She does not have a great success record in her Trump-related cases. Her Wikipedia entry makes interesting reading.

EDIT: I am reliably informed that Habba is no longer lead counsel in this case. Current lead counsel in this trial is Chris Kise, former Solicitor General of Florida and failed Senate candidate. He’s off to Trump’s right, not visible in that picture. His Wikipedia entry is also worth reading.

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When do those magical gag orders come? Before or after one of his disciples commits a crime?

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I keep thinking of the “Michael” character from “The Mook, the Chef, the Wife and Her Homer.”

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