Two Canadians review Starbucks Japan’s new American Cherry Pie Frappuccino

And that’s why I have to spend twenty minutes in line: the people in front of me are overwhelmed by their choices. Or at least that’s what I dealt with after I got a Starbucks gift card for Christmas. Now that I’ve used it up I’ll go back to the independent shop down the street–the one that specializes in coffee.


They didn’t, really. Frappuccino was something they acquired when they bought out Coffee Connection, and have run with in silly directions.


They need a truth-in-naming law. “Algae shake” sounds less appealing, granted, but…

Are they calling them “frapps” or “frappuccinos”? “Frappuccino” is “frappé” + “cappuccino,” and only makes sense referring to some iced, blended, coffee-containing drink. “Frapp” works as their version of “frappé,” though, and works as a label for any sort of milkshake or non-dairy iced dessert item, given existing usage.

Well, someone in their corporate lineage coined the term. Which clearly refers to coffee - the coinage is semi-redundant in that respect. To start using it along the lines of the non-coffee-drink usage of “frappé” is weird.

Dammit, now I want a Greek frappé.


You are preaching to the perverted. Hardly a day goes by where somebody doesn’t chastise me for not seeing the utility of some lexical drift or other. People use one word because it already has recognition, when another would be more readily applicable. Somebody is going to complain either way. I can’t think of the drift and not be reminded of Idiocracy…

I would probably try something like this cherry pie monstrosity if it was unsweetened. I think I only ever had a (regular) frappuccino once, but my impression is that these have become syrupy-sweet things.


Sorry, they’re calling them Frappuccinos. I was just abbreviating for brevity. But that’s where the original “frappe” suffix comes from, indeed. They’re their most popular drink, as I understand it from baristas, so I understand expanding the brand into non-coffee territory. My teenage nephew claims he drinks at least one gigantic creme caramel Frappuccino a day (zero coffee, zero caffeine, but five billion calories that only a teenage kid with an insane metabolism can deal with).


Same thing is happening at Dunkin Donuts, actually. Their blended frozen coffee drink, the Coffee Coolata, has been around for at least 15 years, but they are now changing it to “Frozen Coffee” or something, and using the Coolata name for their overpriced fruity Slurpees.


As a guy deep in Dunkies country, the Coolata change is deeply controversial. It’s one thing for Starbucks to say “Hey, you like mocha Frappucchinos, right? Well now there’s chai Frapps! And caramel Frappucchinos with no coffee if you don’t like coffee!” and folks get their heads around more ways to get their Frapps. But to ditch the Coolata entirely and introduce a new “frozen coffee” and say “it’s better than that stinky old Coolata we used to sell! We’re doing you a favor by getting rid of it!” is not going well with customers.


When I hear frappe, my brain shifts into French.

Frappe-moi une caffee fort, svp!


I used to, until I moved to New England. After 10+ years here, what I knew as “milkshakes” in the midwest I now know as “frappes”. My parents love to travel to Greece, and for them, a “frappe” is Nescafe instant coffee shaken with water and ice.


Yes indeed! In much of New England it is a frappe. I was puzzled as to why they were called a “shake” at McDonalds, and I recall my revulsion when ordering a “shake” from an actual ice cream stand and getting something more like ice cream float. My parents did warn me!

I’ve heard other “cappuccino” derivations that referred to non-coffee drinks, e.g. “babyccino,” but that just seems like an insufferably pretentious way of describing steamed milk. All these other usages seem deeply wrong to me for the same reason, I suspect.

Teenage metabolisms may use up the calories, but one can be smug and/or horrified by the likely reality that all that fat/sugar is probably warping his metabolism for good.

Redefining terms - which weren’t really derived from anything - to be more useful to the current product offering makes sense, even if it confuses existing customers. Though Starbucks could have avoided lexical confusion by simply calling their non-coffee frappés, “frapps.”

It’s kind of amazing how much contradictory regional usage there is of the same terms for food items in English. It seems worse with dessert/sweet items, for some reason (possibly because they’re more likely to be recent, many having 20th century origins). With British vs. American English, there are often different words used for the same food items, but with sweets, there are more often the same words used to refer to different things.


Can someone explain to me how a video like this gets edited. I mean, are these people actually using an Adobe product, or the YouTube editing features, or some app? I find it hard to believe that every Vlogger out there actually uses Premiere Pro. There’s got to be some easy way to create this stuff.

I like the Starbucks “Tax Avoidance Frappuccino”; where you break through the hard crust of Corporate Legalese in to the gooey immorality beneath.


We called those concretes, and we drank them alongside loose meat burgers.

Anyone who isn’t from deep in the Midwest must be seriously confused reading that.

That sounds like Iowa or Missouri. A friend of mine is from a part of Rhode Island that calls milkshakes “cabinets” and hot dogs “new york systems”.


You’re putting me on.

Mystery meat from many different sources crammed into a little tube? Sounds like the New York subway system to me, or really any subway I’ve ever been on.

I don’t know about Android or Windows, but Apple products come with iMovie, which will be able to do this kind of edit relatively easily, even on an iPhone…

I think that there are also a few professional video editing programs which are free for non-pro uses, that might be another option.

Edit: blackmagic da vinci resolve is as professional as can be and is a free download. They only charge you if you want to use multiple GPUs or want to output 4K or for some other functions but it will do youtube videos just fine for free. It actually is complete overkill for that.


No, really. They’re often coffee-flavored but the term is also just used for milkshakes in general.[quote=“LearnedCoward, post:36, topic:99000”]
Mystery meat from many different sources crammed into a little tube?

The Rhode Island booth at the New England state fair (The Big E) serves New York System wieners. It’s just a small hot dog, like a hot dog slider almost, with onions and a loose meat sauce. They’re okay!

Rhode Islanders are kinda weird. I think it’s all the coffee milk.


They have over a million subscribers and average over 250k views per video, videos are monetized… it’s quite possible they use Premiere Pro, given that they likely make over $2k per video. They can write it off as a business expense.

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Yeah their camera looked pretty high end. I just see so many vloggers doing basic edits and stuff and I keep thinking there’s got to be a simpler way to do video editing. I’m guessing iMovie is what is going on. I have Premiere Pro but just want a simple tool for basic cuts.