UK Political Thread, part the second

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Can I give that an equivocal response rather than a like?

The courts in Ireland have said that the UK is not a safe place, and people are seeking asylum in Ireland because they don’t feel safe in the UK. Helen McEnteee didn’t actually say, and doesn’t actually know where 80% of refugees are coming from.

It’s complex and I really, really don’t want to offer succour to the EnglishConservative party, but I want even less to be a place that refuses refugees when they are oppressed. It’s just more important to me.

I’m not that well versed on how the courts may react to this but I don’t see an immediate constitutional grounds for appeal. Could be way wrong. But courts avoid interfering in politics in general. It’s a fairly high bar to clear for the elected government to be overruled.

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Oddly enough
 come the EU elections in June, I will be in charge of a polling station.1)
In Germany. Where everybody and their dog has an ID card. Because that’s how we roll.

And when a constituent comes to the polling station to vote, and if they are in the right polling station, i.e. their name is on the list, and I know them - then, per the electoral law(s),2) I do not need to see their ID card.

1) That’s not the odd bit, I’ve been doing that in every election on every level since 2001.
2) There’s a separate law for the different types of elections (local, state, federal, EU,
plebiscites) each.

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More MPs are currently under investigation than people were found guilty of illegal voting at the last election.

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Yep. When people bring up voter ID, I mention living in Germany and how it’s absolutely 100% normal to carry ID every time you step out of your home. Everyone has ID, and the government makes sure of it. This is surprising to a lot of people who’ve never been to Germany. Weirdly, some of them support voter ID.

The idea that you’d have to carry official ID to vote, but the government doesn’t make sure everyone has ID, is at best half-arsed and at worst downright suspicious. And I don’t give the people pushing for Voter ID the benefit of “half-arsed” doubt.

At first I thought “So ad hoc, nicht so Deutsch”. Then I realized the conditions under which visual sighting of ID would not be required would be very precisely described in full-on Amt-Deutsch, and my mind is at ease. :slight_smile:

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It comes down to just three words, von Angesicht bekannt (known by sight).

Tangent:
Somehow I messed up keeping track of dates of expiry at one point, 15 years or so ago. The long and the short of it is that I didn’t have a valid ID card for 4 years / passport for 5 years and only noticed it by accident when I bought a new wallet. Not a single problem during the whole time, and that includes travel to/through several EU countries each year (although not by plane, though).

What I find a bit funny in the context of “ID cards are issued by Big Brother!” is that the UK uses a sytem of postcodes which is so granular that it can pinpoint somebody’s abode down to a specific part/side of the street it’s in.
But then again I used to know people who agitated against the computerised census in the 1980ies<sup<1) with hot passion - and started posting every intimate detail of their lives online the minute social media became a thing.

1) Herman Hollerith in the 1880ies, anyone?

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A bad night for the Conservatives

The party has so far lost around half the seats it is defending, losing 122 seats and control of three councils, increasing internal pressure on Prime Minister Rishi Sunak.

Happy Cracking Up GIF by Regal

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Regarding voter ID in the UK, you have to understand that this is another authoritarian ploy (amongst many for this gov) right out of the Tory handbook to shore up their older vote and disenfranchise those who are less likely to have photo ID - the poor and the young (guess who are less likely to vote Tory?) The narrative they wish to push that it prevents voter fraud stinks of the bullshit everyone knows it is.

Overview

In the past 5 years, there is no evidence of large-scale electoral fraud.

Of the 1,462 cases of alleged electoral fraud reported to police between 2019 and 2023, 10 led to convictions and the police issued 4 cautions.

Most cases either resulted in the police taking no further action or were locally resolved by the police issuing words of advice.

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Germany doesn’t have the dangerous combination of an unwritten constitution and the Home Office. The UK is a country where the ruling party routinely talks about leaving the ECHR and where the Home Office has a long history of seeking crushing powers over citizens.

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bugger

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30% of eligible voters?

That’s the more damning verdict there.

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Over a 16% swing against the Tories and they still have over half the vote. This one was always going to be a struggle, especially as the incumbent tried to distance himself from the national party.

More generally, it looks like they’re losing about half the council seats that they’re defending.

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He is presiding over Rishi’s pet freeport project and making himself and his pals a huuuge amount of gravy from the taxpayers, reeks of corruption and prolonged investigations.

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Fucking Ben Houchen!

See any issue of Private Eye for the past two or three years for the lowdown on this cheating, freeloading scumbag.

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True, but that still hasn’t stopped him from campaigning almost as if he’s an independent. Party name well hidden on all the campaign materials.

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So was Susan Hall’s and her running mate.

You might think they have something to hide, but I am sure it was just lack of space.

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Yeah, well, I’m not sure Houchen will continue to be so insouciant once the NAO start giving the Teeside deals a proper going-over. But alas that is going to take time, and he’s already managed to get his sinecure in the House of Lords (how?!) which means that he won’t have to worry about playing party games like the rest of them.

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I felt really bad about not voting Binface this time around. I mean, I was perfectly aware that Khan wasn’t in any sort of trouble (despite hilarious rumours) but the problem with FPTP is that you have to vote to keep the Tory out.

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