Originally published at: US House Speaker Mike Johnson says the separation of church and state is a "misnomer" | Boing Boing
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Or…is it ‘mischief’?
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And what happens when your principles of faith encroach on another church or religion?
I ask because that is what fundamentalist Republicans are doing to LGBTQIA+ affirming religions every day, as well as to religions that permit abortions, religious socialists, and other progessive faiths.
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Ahhhh only his one true faith amirite.
Piss off Gilead!
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“we are now all dumber…” etc.
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No Mike, some people misconstrue it. The term had a clear and understandable meaning in context of what republicanism stood for. One that Jefferson who spent time in France knew very well. Republicanism stands for government by the people, not the church or an unelected monarchy/aristocracy.
For people who supposedly insist on original interpretation of The constitution they do seem to invent a load of bollocks from the recent past to pretend is what it meant then. It didn’t. It was utterly clear to everyone all around the world who were republicans at that time.
ETA I put in state instead of inherited nobility just from I think the phrase “church and state” rolling off the fingers. But it is very clear what the tenets of republicanism were, and are everywhere that doesn’t involve the GOP: secular law, popular (as in majority vote) leaders.
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These idiots never seem to consider that the same barriers that keep their religion from telling us how to run our government also keep our government from telling them how to run their religion.
Considering that a majority of voters support policies which people like Johnson find abhorrent one would think he’d consider that a good thing.
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Church only refers to Mike’s religion. All others need not apply.
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Also, it’s not like the Framers and other Enlightenment thinkers looked at the following and shrugged it off as “no big deal, nothing to worry about.”
Unlike this Xtianist arsehole, they understood that mixing church and state was always going to result in a toxic brew.
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Really, Mike? The nation’s founders, who framed and adopted the constitution, for whom bloody religious warfare and persecution was still a living memory, didn’t actual mean church and state should be separated?
Okay, christofascist.
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Fuck right off, ya thumper.
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Also some of the people who founded the traditions that the US state built on explicitly came to invade there to have a state where religious tolerance, and by extension no established religion were founding principles.
They also did that in the understanding that kings/queens could not offer that. They knew that kings would become popes of their own state religion. That’s why they left and invaded another country.
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though i suppose these are the people who also seem to think that “A well regulated Militia,” means anyone anywhere anytime no regulations.
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Just waiting to a muslim start praying just like him to see what would He say. Or a santeria, voodoo, candomblé, umbanda or any other african Américan cult in the Very same house floor.
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When people talk about fictional maltheistic religions, like Lovecraft’s “evil cults,” I think about how much Lovecraft adopted elements of Christianity. And how, despite the aims of these “evil cults” being described by hostile, unreliable narrators in the works, they’re still substantially less horrible than what evangelical Christians believe in and are actively trying to make happen. So while “Cthulhu cults” make for good shorthand for “the worst sort of bad-guys,” I’d still take them any day over Mike Johnson and his ilk.
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