Video captures cop trying to kill teen fleeing in car

[anon68952647]

@anon61833566hunter

Are you not justified in shooting them?

Correct. That would be unjustified. Trespass is not a capital offense. Yo are not allowed to shoot trespassers.

Further, police officers have a higher standard of behavior than homeowners. Right?

[anon68952647]

@anon61833566hunter

and from that point on, you are committing a crime if you do not stop.

Not a crime deserving a death sentence. so stop.

[anon68952647]

And all it will do is lead to people arguing one extreme viewpoint or the other.

the officer is not the victim here. The officer is NOT THE VICTIM.

[gellfex]

@AcerPlatanoides

Trespass is not a capital offense. You are not allowed to shoot trespassers.

Untrue de facto in many of these United States. Remember the trick or treating Japanese kid gunned down at the front door by a hysterical dumbass in Louisiana? Not Guilty. And knocking on a door is not trespassing.

[hello_friends]

The shooter in that case was charged and tried under Louisiana criminal law. The acquittal was an international scandal. After a civil action, the shooter was found liable for over a 1/2 million dollars. So … exception proves rule.

[redesigned]

@anon61833566hunter

“Was the cop or the suspect more out of line?”

A police officer’s actions should never be worse then the action they are trying to stop.

@anon61833566hunter

If someone breaks into your home and you pull your gun on them and instruct them “I have a gun loaded and pointed at you, exit my home and property now” and they didn’t.

Are you not justified in shooting them?

Fuck no!!! trespass and not listening are not capital offenses either. it isn’t a license to murder.

@daneel

The police should only be allowed to shoot to prevent loss of life. And even then, I’d expect the officer to be suspended pending a thorough investigation.

i agree 100%! Very last resort for life and death protection of innocent life, nothing else.

[Zaphod]

Maybe he just wanted a bit of paid leave?

[nothingfuture]

I’ll respond to your first scenario about a home invade while I’m armed.
In my state, I absolutely do not have the right to shoot that person in my house- unless I have no other option. If there’s an exit to my house I can use, I must. I can only shoot if there’s absolutely no other option for me.
Shooting someone for entering my house would mean that I’m valuing my stuff more than a human life, and I’m of the belief that stuff is just stuff. I can replace stuff. I have insurance for stuff. Even things I like are just things.
And so here: he stole a car. Fine- that’s not a good thing. But that’s what insurance is for. There’s no imminent threat- he was driving the car around, but where’s the panic that we have to deal with all this right now? It’s just a car. Is an older Honda really worth more than a human life?

[cjankelson]

And arguably worse, ALL cops stand in solidarity with the allegedly “few” racist cops. Until policemen are willing to stand up and say “Joe was never a good cop and we shuddered every time he went on patrol” , I’m not cutting any cops any slack.

[Fef]

indent preformatted text by 4 spaces“Forest Acres is giving officer Cooper a paid vacation during its investigation.”

The officer will probably sent for more training to work on his aim.

[cameronh1403]

Stormtrooper training perhaps?

[cameronh1403]

A fucking men!!!

Cops that say things like that don’t seem to get if Officer Bumblefuck is hostile to the public, what makes them think he won’t be hostile to he fellow cops as well?

[Ignatius]

@PurpleStater

My repeated point has been that we don’t know what happened immediately PRIOR to what is shown on the video, and that’s very important to judgment.

Not that important. Cooper clearly wasn’t in danger of being injured when he shot the kid. The kid did a good job of avoiding hurting Cooper. While taking the position “If I stop, this cop’s going to shoot me. Out in the middle of nowhere. I’m going to die. And they’re going to successfully blame my murder on me.”

An incredibly reasonable position to take since Cooper then shot him and *ahem* told an inaccuracy to the dispatcher.

What could have happened before the clip starts to justify trying to kill the kid after he made so much effort to avoid hurting the cop?

@PurpleStater

Situations like this should pretty much always have a criminal investigation. It proves innocence as well as guilt, and reinforces that fact that cops are expected to play by the rules too.

I agree. But before any of us can trust that process, our justice system has to start consistently charging cops for abusive behavior (and murder when applicable … attempted murder in this case) and then seriously prosecuting so there are some statistically significant convictions.

@Bosoxpats

Let me start by saying I’m not a fan of being pulled over by the law but all of you are fuckin tripping. That dumb ass driver should have done what the officer said right from the beginning.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/23/us/baltimore-goodson-verdict-freddie-gray/index.html

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@AcerPlatanoides

@anon61833566hunter

The entire thing is shit. And all it will do is lead to people arguing one extreme viewpoint or the other. Instead of fixing the issue.

the officer is not the victims here. The officer is NOT THE VICTIM.

Yeah, apparently the legal postulates that officers should respond with the minimum force necessary for personal and public protection, and also have a duty to protect the lives of everyone, even criminals, are “extreme viewpoints”.