Whatcha Watchin' (Season 2)

Ooh, someone loaned me the series on DVD and i’m about 2/3 the way through and it is rather great actually. The style of it is so 60s and the counter cultural themes of that era but no less enjoyable and i suppose it has something to say about state surveillance. I think i’ve got past the point in the series where no.6 has finally stopped trusting people and is now turning the tables on the warders. Are you watching it in broadcast order? I switched to the 6of1 order as detailed on the wiki, i felt like some the later episodes belonged earlier on thematically based on the dialogue so the 6of1 order makes more sense.

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Started watching it in broadcast order and have continued, assuming that’s the Amazon Video order. Currently have six episodes left, of 17. My watching partner and I have decided just to treat the obvious out-of-orderness as part of the surreal confusion of the story. Where is he? When is he? sort of thing. Just part of the trip.

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RESIGNED

It’s so good.

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My daughter told me to watch a 15-minute short musical film on Netflix, so I’m watching it right now.

“Anima”

The recommendation is to “watch it loud”. The guy from Radiohead is the main character.

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Definitely very 60’s. Not at all as bonkers as The Prisoner. The episodes I’ve seen are pretty straight.

If you’re after something like The Prisoner or The Avengers, I’d say you’d be disappointed but it’s a perfectly good spy thriller series.

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Well, I’ve been saying for years this would be a better series than a film… Hopefully, they’ll not fuck it up?

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Ok, not exactly news about a real tv show, but some people are saying It is the end of walking dead.

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To be fair, the two diverged long ago, even if some locations are the same.

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A bit like Game of Thrones and Song of Ice and Fire…

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Binged this over the last few days, and am glad I gave it a shot.

eta hit reply instead of edit. oops!

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The new season of Veronica Mars dropped on Hulu this last Friday and I finished binge watching it earlier today. In a word, wow. Any other fans of the show here?

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I’m your huckleberry.

"…A long time ago,
This show used to be good,
But it hasn’t been like that lately, at all…"

No, I’m not mad, and not at the reason you’d probably think:

I’m un-ironically disappointed.

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Love Veronica Mars, but not pleased with Hulu’s prices (relative to uniquely available shows) and privacy-obliterating demands on personal data to even get the free trial. I’ll have to wait until it’s available on DVD or Amazon Prime or some such. I’m just not interested in enough shows on Hulu to justify the commitment.

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PIRATE ALL THE SHOWZ!!!

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I don’t have Hulu but if I did, then I would be furious right about now… just like so many of the ‘Marshmallows’ currently melting down on twitter.

(I strongly recommend not spending even a single penny to watch S4.)

I’ve just finally realized that while Rob Thomas excels at writing snappy dialog and likable characters, he sucks at actual good storytelling itself.

The narrative problems the original run of VM had, all the perpetual issues with Izombie in each of its 4 seasons, it all makes sense if one looks past the slick surface.

I really think I’m done watching any more of his projects after the final ep of Izombie airs.

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I do like me some historical period drama. :wink:

A fourth season is in production. Netflix

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That’s basically how I felt about Ryan Murphy after Glee ended up being a mean-spirited rehash of Popular but with musical numbers!

And then how I felt about the Palladinos after the ending of the revival of Gilmore Girls pissed me off beyond belief and shit on so much of the rest of the series’ legacy.

And then, for V.Mars in the end of Season 4 - because I just have to write it somewhere to help me process - I was once again incredibly pissed off at the ending. It was so unnecessarily dark and depressing that I felt like it completely shit on all the fans who just wanted poor Veronica to finally find some goddamn happiness. Surely it could have had an equally dark ending without it going where it went - especially after how great the rest of the season was.

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Ryan Murphy is another one whom I find problematic; between Glee (which I stopped watching after the 2nd season) and AHS: Freak Show (which made NO fucking sense whatsoever, from a story-telling standpoint) I had pretty much written him off too… until he came with the sublime series, Pose.

Nevertheless, I live in fear that Ryan will end up fucking that one up too; and if he does, it will be real tragedy, because it’s such a ground-breaking show for all our Trans sisters and brothers.

Never got caught up in that one, thankfully.

I tend to avoid most CW offerings in general, as I’m clearly not the intended target demographic, and most of them seem like milquetoast, cookie-cutter, fluff entertainment.

I discovered VM purely on a lark of boredom, 4 years after the series had first aired and I was instantly hooked. The first season was great, the second one was okay, and the third one was pretty bad, but I watched it anyway. The movie was mostly fan service, but I was still all in.

When I heard the series was coming back I was pleased but wary.

And now?

I’m just glad that I wasn’t a bonafide ‘Marshmallow’ from the very start; because that trite and overly cliched ending was a serious slap in the face to the VM fandom.

Again, I’m not mad, I’m disappointed.

There seems to be this trend in tv programming where writers/creators/producers are actively trying to shit on the very people who made them so successful in the first place, and I just don’t get it.

There’s a current Rolling Stone article interviewing Thomas, and he admits verbatim that he is “afraid” of the fans’ reaction to the S4 finale; like, yeah you should be.

That was a really shitty thing to do just because he couldn’t figure out a way to keep the show “interesting” if Veronica and Logan were finally in a happy, healthy committed relationship together. When fridging one of the show’s most popular supporting characters is the only way you can think of to ‘expand the narrative,’ you done fucked up.

Also, I have serious beef with Thomas for how badly Veronica was written this season: for the first time ever in the entire run, I found myself not liking Veronica Mars as a character.

15 years have passed since Lilly Kane’s murder, and damn near everyone except Veronica has matured and grown up emotionally since that tragedy.

Her deriding Logan for going to therapy and actively working to become a less damaged human being, her tone-deaf condescension to Weevil about his dubious choices (and his lack thereof) regarding the neverending class disparity in Neptune; those are just a couple of instances that I can think of at the moment.

Lastly, that overly-sentimental recording at the very end of the finale?

To me, that demonstrates that Thomas doesn’t understand what real strength even is; he seems to think that it means being a self-destructive hardass with antisocial tendencies and a metric fuckton of unaddressed emotional trauma.

O_o

*Edited for typos.

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