I would love to know the numbers in that poll that separate out WHITE vs BLACK vs OTHER evangelicals. I have a distinct feeling that the majority of those that identify as evangelical and support 45 will also happen to be white. In which it has nothing to do with his religious values (of which he has none) and everything to do with him being white.
He is gross and disgusting…and Christians supporting him is ludicrous.
Yep!
Fuggin idiots.
Just not in the developing world with “mission trips” anymore, please.
I see your wikipedia link and counter with:
and things like this:
https://www.premier.org.uk/Topics/Society/Religion/Why-Xmas-is-Just-Plain-Offensive
https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20061106161317AAzegCi
https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20101226193512AAwT7HK
Xmas is not inherently a commercialisation of ‘Christmas’.
Retailers and customers manage that all on their own whether they call it Xmas or Christmas.
There are people who claim to be offended by the use of Xmas because it is an attempt to remove Christ from the holiday.
Whether there are ‘many’ people who think that or not, it is not a good idea to provide them with more ammunition to say that using X- instead of Christ is un- or even anti-christian.
It is not.
If you decide to use ‘X’ the way they say people use it - in this case to emphasise that they are not in fact Christians, you just provide them with proof that that is what is happening.
But hey, it was just a request 
Yes, I’m familar with the history of “Xmas”. It became common here as a commercial abbreviation for “Christmas” and never was really part of the “War on Christmas” narrative (a relatively recent development) in the U.S. Most Xtianists who complain about “The War on Christmas” don’t know about the Greek letter Chi (or indeed the Greek alphabet), let alone its role as a non-commercial abbreviation.
I’ll continue using “Xtianist” to distinguish the current crop of conservative white Mammon-worshipping evangelicals from actual Christians. If that bothers them, so much the better.
[I don’t use “Xmas” because I’m a former journalist and the style guides discourage its use]
I keep coming back to the same thought, and it’s infuriating: the same people who have been telling me for my entire life they disapprove of my “sinful lifestyle” are the people who’d happily send a pedophile to the US Senate, or put a militantly narcissistic, ignorant, sexually predatory conman who has never worked an honest day in his life in the White House. A man who cheated on ALL of his wives, who paid off and threatened his porn star mistresses to keep them quiet, etc…A man who says he didn’t make a hooker pee tape in Russia or enjoy the services of hookers at all not because he’s not the sort of man who does that, or because he was a married man, no, he tells the Director of the FBI that he didn’t do that sort of thing because he suspected his room might be wired.
I remember that time Michelle Obama wore a sleeveless dress and these folks were scandalized. And yet you can easily Google images of the current First Lady naked in the arms of a another woman and they couldn’t care less.
That’s not even hypocrisy. It’s mental illness.
Edit: typo
It’s actually pretty easy to understand the religious right’s continued support for Trump when you put it into the context of the Supreme Court.
While many evangelicals are divided on traditional politics, there is one issue that unites them all and that’s abortion. They have been working to overturn Roe vs. Wade for going on a half century and they see in Trump a way to finally get a desirable outcome - packing SCOTUS with right-wing ideologues. They got Gorsuch and they’re salivating at 1 or possibly 2 more justice picks.
The politics of abortion, he says, is the key to understanding the right’s shift on rights.
Traditionally, religious conservative politics have long been rooted in biblical conservatism. Whereas liberals typically emphasized individual and minority rights, conservatives tended instead to promote moral communities based on Christian values.
Then, the author notes, following the U.S. Supreme Court’s 1973 decision in Roe v. Wade, anti-abortion activists found themselves a political minority, an unfamiliar position that prompted a new focus among the ranks on free speech and religious liberty.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/05/religious-right-real-origins-107133
That’s rather my point - it won’t bother them. They’d just take it as proof of their argument.
So, we’re ignoring the bits I linked to that show it’s not a commercial abbreviation and that stating it is was and is part of the “War on Christmas” narrative (which is btw not recent - just recently resurgent)?
Fair enough.
As you say, if I’m wrong and it does in fact annoy them, “so much the better”.
I just don’t think it does and that it instead validates their weird internal worldview and that you should consider whether you want to do that.
If you’re happy that your intended effect will be achieved, I’m not going to stop you.
Either way, I’ll end my OT comments here.
Not to mention apostate, murderer, self-hating antisemitic Jew, enemy of James the Righteous the Brother of Jesus, multi-level marketer…
No, we are not ignoring them. We are pointing out that we’re discussing a U.S.-based phenomenon (hence the word “here”). And, as the link I provided earlier discussed, what’s commonly understood as “The War on Christmas” narrative emerged in the U.S. (again, “here”) in the early 2000s. The earlier Christmas controversies centred around the commercialisation of the holiday, which Brimelow and O’Reilly and their ilk have absolutely no problem with.
Look, they just follow Supply Side Jesus.
I remember reading - I think it may have been in Simon Wiesenthal’s Sunflower book - about how it was only 20 percent or so of individuals in Poland who were antisemitic. They were a vocal, powerful, minority, however, and that was all it took for them to be focused on restricting the rights of Jews even as Hitler was preparing to annex Poland. I think of that figure often when I think about Evangelicals, and Pence…
This isn’t quite that, but it’s still of relevance:
Sprinkle in a little Asch Conformity Experiment into the bouillabaisse:
He didn’t have to get his teenage intern an abortion. He is one of the classy ones by modern Evangelical standards.
Don’t forget the rapture. By starting Armageddon he will usher in the second coming. It’s there biggest payoff from trump. Little do they know they are the ones who will be left behind, because they certainly do not follow the teachings of Jesus and actually they don’t even care about the Ten Commandments. It’s a free for all for them now until their soul pays the price. Not that I believe any of this crap trap, but they don’t even follow it themselves. I’m so done with what this nation has become. If we lose in 2018, I am making an attempt to move to a shit hole nation like say, oh I dunno, Norway.
Secret product research.
Trump Network, a vitamin company, reportedly sent customers urine-sample kits branded with a Trump logo.
“Take a snapshot of the most critical metabolic markers in your body’s natural waste fluids,” the website said.
Did the urine test business fail before the aftershave one started?
He embodies the xenophobia, misogyny, racism, fear, cruelty, Authoritarianism, narcissism and White Spite which are their soul. Of course they love him
