Someone I know suggested Stacy Abrams. That might be a better choice. It would also let Warren continue work in the Senate.
I think Warren would be a better candidate but my opinion really counts for nothing.
I do wonder if democrats (well some) will position themselves as candidates willing to hold President Sanders to account and not letting him run wild in contrast the republicans and the current Thing in the White House. “I will prevent President Sanders from trading military aid for investigations of Don jr.” … ok it will be more likely “I will not abide while our great health care system is destroyed “
Given that the DNC really is not aligned with Sanders it will be interesting.
So I guess we’re faced with a problem. We want to know whether someone was slurring someone by comparing them to the Nazis. Now, we all know that any test will have false positives and false negatives, and you can decrease one but usually at the expense of increasing the other.
Do we want to live in a society where people who invoke the Nazis in an analogy to someone they don’t like are potentially unfairly accused of calling that person a Nazi?
Do we want to live in a society where people get away with calling someone a Nazi by hiding it in an analogy with plausible deniability?
And it comes down to how important it is to all of us that we preserve the right of people to make analogies that compare bloodless political victories to the Nazi invasion of France. If we think it’s very important that people keep doing that then I agree that strategically we should probably tone down our criticism of Matthews here.
On the other hand, if we don’t give two fucks about protecting people’s Nazi-adjacent rhetoric because it’s wholly unnecessary then we should feel free to risk stigmatizing it.
Forget Don Jr., they’ll be yesterday’s news. Gotta put Mitch McConnell’s kids in foreign prisons.
I’m Jewish by most useful definitions (def would have been killed by Nazis as many in my family were, and that’s as fair a definition as any as far as I’m concerned) and I consider myself to be a white guy, certainly compared to Americans who are generally considered to be non-white. I don’t consider that his Jewishness somehow makes him less white by any contemporary measure.
I’m 42, and I am talking about the present, which is when we find Bernie Sanders running for President as far as this discussion is concerned. I am not aware of him having run for President prior to 1970.
For the hundredth time I’ll add, I’m a Sanders supporter, I gave him the maximum contribution allowed during the primaries of 2016, I voted for him in the 2016 Democratic primary, I would continue to be thrilled to see him as President, and at this point while I plan to vote for Warren, if by the time things get to Maryland, I may vote for Sanders if I feel supporting him at that juncture makes more sense than voting for Warren.
None of this changes my view that I think we’re well past the point in time when we should have a woman for President, and I think 78 is too old for someone to be running for President, especially for a first term. I don’t think 72 is much better, but it’s better than 15 like Mayor Pete or 470 like Biden.
So I will return to my original point – I would rather have a 72-year-old progressive woman as President, vs. a 78-year-old progressive male, given the choice. Quite disappointed that Democratic party primary voters don’t seem to agree, from what I can tell almost entirely due to the idea that “Well, I would vote for a woman, but I’m not sure other people would.” It strikes me that most of those people are going to be voting for Trump regardless, and if freaking PAKISTAN can have a female Prime Minister in 1988, the USA can have a female President in 2020.
For what it’s worth, Chris Hayes (MSNBC’s 8pm host) is at this moment delivering a very sober and reasonable statement about how none of the data supports the notion that Sanders will fare poorly against Trump in the general. The segment is called “What’s driving the Sanders freak-out” and it’s pretty supportive of Sanders’ legitimacy as a candidate. And, a direct shot at other MSNBC hosts and their guests. The next segment is a discussion on the subject, which I imagine will be interesting.
