I’m with ya
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LOL “BUTT RUMP”
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Bernie already is
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That interp demands a question mark at the end.
ANYBODY BUTT RUMP?
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For myself and my compatriots who are activists in the field, we’re surprised on just how much the Internet (as a vehicle) has succeeded in this election well beyond our initial, meager expectations.
Then again, we weren’t setting ourselves up for disappointment. Due to our exhaustive research we found compelling evidence that told us beforehand what to expect from the corporate media versus online vehicles.
We knew this was an uphill battle from the very beginning. I’ve stated these facts for many years now within this forum as well. Here’s where I’ve repeated it more recently:
That’s why I made that factor an important bullet point within my argument in that particular post/thread.
However, has the Internet been a failure for us? Hardly. It’s had enormous organizing power and there’s plenty of evidence to back that assertion up. It still has a long way to go, but it’s already exceeding a lot of our expectations.
The Internet won’t overtake corporate TV media influence on many (not all) demographics for some years to come. What evidence made you think it would happen in 2015? There was no such evidence that I found where the Internet was going to compete with the corporate media head-to-head alone when the campaign started.
That’s why we Bernie activists focused on so much offline activism and outreach on top of utilizing online vehicles where it’s been practical (especially for organizing). Where do you think these crowds manifested themselves despite a hostile corporate TV media that very actively attempted to hide the promotion of his events beforehand?
It was and continues to be from the power of grassroots organizing both offline and online despite a hostile corporate media.
We’ve worked around their blockades and in some cases busted right on through them.
This reminds me of how Howard Stern managed to date himself. He was out-of-touch and claimed that YouTube darling PewDiePie wasn’t making big money because he didn’t personally hear about PewDiePie through his traditional media sources. In reality, PewDiePie was making 7 million a year and had a large audience when Stern aired his rant.
There has been very “real happenings” on the Internet and grassroots has been benefitting in very tangible ways from this phenomenon. For example, The Young Turks (who I’ve supported for years now) stood at a total of 2 billion views as of July 2014. Last year around this time they were at over 1.4 million views a day.
Now, today, they are at over 90 million views a month and TYT actively supports Bernie Sanders on their shows:
Case in point. Bernie Sanders, Turk Of The Year Award Winner for 2015.
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There is nothing new to see here. Names have changed. Some grassroots stuff has started to sprout. But the overall form and shape of the election is no different than what has gone before. …Same old election as ever. Nothing new yet.[/quote]
We’ve been here for quite a while now. Well before the Sanders campaign started and well before you showed your support for Bernie here on Boing Boing a little while ago.
The grassroots movements that surround Sanders are very widespread and powerful. We’ve been changing this country for many years now beforehand.
Don’t look to the corporate media to show this reality directly – look at results.
For example, look at the minimum wage increases across this nation. That’s incredibly powerful grassroots at work. It happened completely under the radar of the corporate media.
This is the same grassroots organizations and activists (like me) that are ready to kick some serious ass after Sanders is elected to the White House. Unlike Obama, Sanders will work with us after he’s elected. That’s why a major Black Lives Matter activist is already a part of his team, for example.
Corporatists will find this terrifying — but Sanders is bringing progressive activists who are normally forced to the outside of government right into the fold. This is absolutely NOTHING like Obama’s administration which pushed most of us aside after he was elected.
The corporate folks that own the corporate media are absolutely terrified of this situation. You will not hear much about this from them at all.
Show up to some of our meetings across this nation if you doubt this. We are going to battle against the establishment with the largest, most powerful, nationwide alliance of grassroots Americans never before seen in the history of this nation.
There’s multitudes of evidence of our enormous presence if you look beyond corporate media narratives and antiquated, wildly inaccurate mainstream polls that still rely too much on landlines and on little or no social media indicators.
Here’s yet another massive indicator of our huge, nationwide presence…
Despite a hostile corporate media and establishment that literally told the DFA to reject Bernie, we won a nationwide, landslide win when actual votes were put to the test instead of bullshit polls.
The polls and punditry said this was impossible. They were both dead wrong on a laughable level.
We’re here, just don’t count on the corporate media to tell you about us directly and /or honestly. The corporate media attempted to bury the significance of the DFA win.
It was significant due to nationwide votes that absolutely defied the currently skewed polls that so many trumpet as infallible and portend an inevitable coronation for Hillary.
The jig is up. The polls are wrong. Those of us with fortitude aren’t going to let the corporate media wear us down. We’re energized and fighting to win.
Bernie Sanders and the grassroots movements that surround him already did that preemptively because we knew we were facing a hostile corporate media from the very beginning. And, we’ve been reaping the benefits ever since.
This was at the end of July:
Bernie Sanders Hosts Biggest Organizing Event of 2016 So Far
I don’t know, man. You sound like you’re in a defeatist funk. Whatever your problem is, I hope you work it out for yourself. In the meantime, we’re going to continue to strengthen the largest, untelevised grassroots movements in this nation’s history to fight for Bernie Sanders and the ideas he represents for us.
As I said, you won’t hear about us in the corporate media directly. Why the hell would you? However, we’ll be in the history books down the road after all the dust has settled.
I’ve got work to do for this campaign, my time is limited and it’s even more limited for naysayers at this point. Don’t let them wear you down like this and try to have a happy new year.
Meanwhile… coming to a yard near you in America:
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it will be tweeted, instagrammed and uploaded to youtube… 
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The crowds are massive.
Picture of the UMass crowd for Bernie Sanders 01/02/16
Don’t expect the corporate media and/or skewed mainstream polls to tell you about our massive numbers.
JUST USE YOUR OWN EYES
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One has popped up 4 houses down from my mine in our middle-class neighborhood of mostly middle-aged professionals.
Still nothing for Clinton.
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I think that Sanders has more to offer many Trump supporters than a lot of the Republicans do. Trump’s popularity is less about him being racist, and more about him being seen as sticking it to the establishment. Bernie does the same. I think you could get a certain percentage of Americans to vote for a fire to consume congress and the white house more easily than you could get them to vote for Bush or Clinton.
The kind of right vs. left thinking that the media boils everything down to is a big part of why political pundits are right as often as stopped clocks.
There’s a real chance some won’t, but there are plenty of Clinton supporters who don’t want Sanders to win, particularly those who are providing the big donations to her campaign.[quote=“Kimmo, post:708, topic:59394”]
But in hindsight it turns out that you can only reconcile his words and his deeds by plumbing new depths of two-faced arsehole and cranking your cynicism up to eleven.
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I recall someone putting together an Obama-on-the-campaign-trail debates Obama-the-president video on surveillance in the wake of Snowden. Seriously, on that issue, I feel like the truth is probably that the NSA or CIA is blackmailing him. He look so resigned and tired when he defends them. Maybe that sounds like a crazy conspiracy theory, but I don’t think I would put anything past the American intelligence structure.[quote=“khepra, post:715, topic:59394”]
Some of my favorites are Julian Castro
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So not Raul Castro, then.
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Yep, anyone who digs Vidal and/or Chomsky knows the score. It’s the Golden Rule; realpolitik 101.
The vectors of influence various sources of entrenched power can bring to bear on the Prez are likely numerous and extremely persuasive.
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I wouldn’t disbelieve that. I have heard by rumor that good old FBI director Hoover was fond of greeting each new president with a big folder of info on them that would go public if he didn’t stay in his position. Even if not true he had many presidents afraid enough to not fire him because of the political fallout.
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I recall reading an article about the uselessness of MI-5 (quite probably linked from boingboing) which detailed how they fabricated a scandal against one of their own directors because he was going to end a program where they considered failed missions to be evidence that the involved agents were Russian spies. I think intelligence agencies gather information to harm people who would harm the intelligence agencies, and I don’t know that they do much of anything else.
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MI-5 (and 6) have always been useless. From the very start they were filled with Soviet spies. Their Director General in the 50s and 60s (Roger Hollis) almost certainly was one. They are amusingly shambolic. Even Le Carre books seem to be generous about them compared to the reality.
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replying to myself cause well gee that was odd timing. not that tabloids are the best source of facts…
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Among the larger universe of potential Democratic primary voters,
Sanders’ lead increases to six points, 50 percent to 44 percent. In
October, the Vermont senator held a nine-point lead over Clinton.Sanders outperforms Clinton in general-election matchups The NBC/WSJ/Marist polls also show that Sandersoutperforms Clinton in hypothetical general-election matchups in these
two presidential battleground states - something other surveys have
found, too.In Iowa: Clinton leads Trump by eight points amongregistered voters (48 percent to 40 percent), but Sanders is ahead of
him by 13 (51 percent to 38 percent);Cruz tops Clinton by four points (47 percent to 43 percent), but Sanders beats him by five (47 percent to 42 percent);And
up Rubio is up by five points over Clinton (47 percent to 42 percent),
while he’s tied with Sanders (44 percent to 44 percent).In New Hampshire: Clinton is ahead of Trump by just one point(45 percent to 44 percent), but Sanders tops him by 19 points (56
percent to 37 percent);Cruz beats Clinton by four points (48
percent to 44 percent), but Sanders leads him by another 19 points (55
percent to 36 percent);And Rubio bests Clinton by 12 points (52
percent to 40 percent), while Sanders leads him by nine points (50
percent to 41 percent).The primary reason why Sanders tests better in
these general-election matchups is due to his stronger performance with
independent voters.
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I can’t remember why I ended up being signed up for this (probably @cowicide), but MoveOn is running a vote to decide if they will endorse a Dem candidate this time around - they endorsed Obama in 2008.
http://act.moveon.org/survey/2016_presidential_endorsement-vote/
I don’t think you can vote if you weren’t already registered, but the result might be interesting.
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Is this for real, or one of your funny 'shoops?
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Not sure if shopped, I found it on Reddit methinks. I suspect it’s shop’d, I can tell by the pix…
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