Why (or why not) to vote for Jill Stein

Do you even pay attention before you throw on the accolades?

He’s a terrible businessman and highly crooked. He started in life with billions and decades later may be worth millions (which is the likely reason his tax records will never be provided.)

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So what Democratic events are you attending in order to helpfully tell people their platform and methods are wrong?

The Democratic Party sure listens to centrists and conservatives more than the GOP gives two fucks about anything left of Bircher.

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Personally I think he’s an unsuccessful businessman who portrays a successful one on TV.

However, there’s an alternative - he’s tied in with the mob, and admits it, and admits to manipulating politically controlled economic systems (like the tax system). So it’s easy to construct a narrative where he has trillions socked away where nobody can find it, and that narrative is not falsifiable at this time. Take his casinos, for example - all that cash money went somewhere, right? It didn’t go towards legitimate expenses like wages for working people… it’s nearly impossible to go bankrupt running a casino, a lot of people say you’d have to be doing it on purpose.

But lets not get too far off the thread topic, there’s another thread for that.

This is undeniably true.

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I can’t argue with any of that! What’s wrong with the Universe?! :smiley:

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I got a look at my ballot… Green Party candidates for President, Governor, Congress, and my local state representative district as well!

Considering the shenanigans that the locally dominant party has been engaging in for the last six months to keep Greens off my ballot, this is a triumph!

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Alinsky, Rochester, 1972.

Ah, nice. Thanks! So basically Honkala made an insightful and clever reference that I’m sure Senator Sanders and Secretary Clinton recognized instantly.

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For those involved in that world I don’t know that it’s necessarily clever. It’s a very famous story so it comes across more like a jab, albeit a well placed one. But who ever said politics was polite? Not me. Thanks for the article, I got as far as the ‘secret socialists’ comment. I’ll try to come back to it when the bullshit season has subsided and I have more patience.

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The only Green on my ballot is Stein for President, but I do have the American Shopping Party guy as a choice for Senator.

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The Blue Enigma Party failed to get on the ballot in Delaware this year. :frowning:

But we also lost the openly racist parties from downstate, presumably because they already felt well represented by the GOP candidate this year.

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Blue Enigma Party[/quote]

I can’t figure out what they stand for.

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We had even more Green candidates than you did!

  • President & VP
  • Senator
  • State Comptroller
  • Metropolitan Water Reclamation District Commissioners for 6-year term (3 total, can vote for up to 3 candidates)
  • Metropolitan Water Reclamation District Commissioner for 2-year term
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Huh, the Pacific Northwest didn’t have any on my ballot but Stein.

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I’m sure they did, because I recognized it as well.

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Good beer, hot music, tasty waves, bikinis, and leaving other people the hell alone.

It’s basically one guy who owns a bar in a small beach town. It’s easy for him to meet signature and party membership requirements because he has a bazillion people going through his doors, many of them drunk.

We used to also have david s de reimer on the ticket for senator, but as his mental illness has deepened, he’s spiraled into his own idiosyncratic version of the “sovereign citizen” madness (thus the all lower case unpunctuated name) and no longer recognizes federal offices or authority. Very sad, really; when I last talked to him, around 15 years ago, he was obviously quite mad but also really dedicated to the public good, and (at that time) probably would have been a superb (and super entertaining) senator.

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That is awesome! I wish we had water commissioners here.

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Not very enigmatic, then.

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That was one of my biggest surprises on moving to Portland; I expected the Green Party to be much more active up here. I switched to the Dems this year to vote for Bernie Sanders in the primary, but I was with the Greens from 2005 until then, and they really don’t do much.

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Their all-or-nothing attitudes no longer surprise me.

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The party is not composed of a single homogeneous mass; perhaps you are thinking of a different, hierarchically driven, heavily bureaucratized party that actively resists change.

:slight_smile:

The Green Party got my votes! Well, I did also vote for one Republican and one Democrat. But mostly greens.

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