Why (or why not) to vote for Jill Stein


#1

Time to start this inevitable thread.

And may the discussion remain civil.


#2

Antivaxer?


#3

We support the teaching, funding and practice of holistic health approaches and as appropriate, the use of complementary and alter- native therapies such as herbal medicines, homeopathy, naturopathy, traditional Chinese medicine and other healing approaches.


#4

2016 Platform Amendment Proposal: Health Care

Proposed amendment of the current language:

The Green Party supports a wide range of health care services, including conventional medicine, as well as the teaching, funding and practice of complementary, integrative and licensed alternative health care approaches.

ADOPTED according to the one page I’m looking at: http://gp.org/cgi-bin/vote/propdetail?pid=820

(Note: I found one page after searching around, I don’t know any more than that.)


#5

Yeah, unless the green party goes evidence-based medicine I’m thinking Princess Pricklepants is a better bet. @nemomen, what’s her stance?


#6

Her Highness is for science-based policy, and her robo-consultants inform her that Jill Stein’s positions on this particular topic do not compute. Also there’s no pro-personal servant robot policy, which is a puzzle.


#7

I’m pretty firmly on the pro-personal servant robot side of things (as well as Wearable Holodecks, Teddy Bear Herders as nonlethal weapons, and Pet/Baby thought translators). If these fall into Princess Pricklepants’ platform then she’s going to be hard to beat!


#8

Not that I can find. At worst I’ve seen her argue that the current corporate-political alliance breeds paranoia about vaccines that hurts vaccination rates. It didn’t sound very antivax to me.


#9

Wearable Holodecks are among the best ideas ever, though could get awkward depending on the program and who drops by and the UI. Lock the door before activating some programs.

Plush robots seem like the next logical direction. So many applications. This is a game changer.

Pet Thought Translators, though, there are risks. Can you imagine hearing what your cat thinks about you? You’d never look at them the same. Also what if you tuned into your sweet beloved doggie thinking impure thoughts about your leg? I could see down sides.


#10

There’s something elegant about weaponized hugs, isn’t there?

And do you REALLY want to know what the cat is thinking? That’s why the default mode is more of a Siri with a cute voice, let’s be honest…when you’re talking to your pet…YOU are the context. The poor critter’s just along for the ride.

(Except Princess Pricklepants, of course!)

Let’s be honest, it’s always going to be used for porn. A lot. Because we have genitals.

That’s why Wearable Holodecks V2 come with an automatic door locker AND sensors to warn you if anybody is approaching. It’ll even throw up naked pictures of Dick Cheney to quickly shrivel that distracting bulge!


#11

And you’d certainly never turn your back on them. Sleep with one eye open, cat-lovers…


#12

Gripping your pillow tight …


#13

Besides practical applications, a fictional work involving a dictator taking over the world with Cuddlebot swarms hugging the resistance into submission could have real potential.


#14

I can’t help but imagine Jill Stein, having read the “Why (or why not)” threads about Bernie and Hillary, is now very, very disappointed in us.


#15

We could throw in some weird Kemetic stuff if it’d help.


#16

I stayed out of them almost entirely (except for a brief weakness talking to Khepra that was quickly overcome), so they weren’t derailed.

What is Jill Stein’s position on Jesus: Historicist or Myther? I can’t find that anywhere. Also what’s her position on the Kemetic Sciences used to create the pyramids? These are so topical for the BB community, how can we make an informed electoral choice without knowing?


#17

You don’t actually need to know Jill Stein’s position on anything before decided why to vote for her.

It’s like voting for Gary Johnson.

You’re voting on who they’re not. It’s not like she’s going to win or materially affect the result in any way.

Although I did donate to her campaign this week.


#18

I like my Presidents to have more experience in government than local town council. It is a pet peeve of mine.


#19

Stein and Johnson are boutique candidates. I wish I liked the Green Party more, but they’re a little too hippy for me, and as a long-haired vegetarian Buddhist that’s maybe sad, or maybe I’m just not a hippy and only seem like one. There are a lot of points that are quite good, and then there’s the stuff like the hemp-mania/GMO/anti-Vax/anti-Nuclear/the arts should “advocate compassion, nurturance, or cooperation” or “unmask the often-obscure connections between various forms of violence, domination, and oppression,” stuff (and other tidbits too numerous to list) that seems more like they were coming up with some of the platform in the parking lot of a Grateful Dead show, but that are either a little too naive, or a little non-fact-based, or a little too focused on touchy-feely stuff that doesn’t seem like it’s great political platform material. It ensures their place as a small niche party hippies can vote for as a token of authenticity rather than a serious political movement in the country we live in. And that’s sad, because a group who used the right approach, really could pull in more people who are disenfranchised and looking for change and maybe help progress a bit more. The US needs a left that isn’t so culturally bound to the hippies.


#20

So as far as relevant qualifications go it’s Hillary Clinton > Jill Stein > Random County Clerk > Donald Trump