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How accepted is this sort of expression of political allegiance in Brazil? I know that in many places in Asia the horror of National Socialism is not really a part of the national consciousness and flirting with the imagery is seen as edgy and cool rather than disgusting and disturbing (hence the occasional Hitler-branded restaurant). Is it the same in Brazil or did these people know exactly what the line was they were crossing?

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Not to rudely step on @BakaNeko’s toes here (sorry), but (I know, I know, sorry):

Between the pre-WW2 Nazi propaganda in Brazil, the post-WW2 influx of Nazis, their home-grown fascists, being a military dictatorship from 1964 to 1985, their neighbours having all this too at one point or another and Brazil sending troops to fight with the allies against Nazi Germany in the Italian campaign (BTW, thanks)
plus a lot of other things and details I know jack shit about…

My money is on: they know damn well what they are doing.

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There are no open display of nazi symbols like the restaurant in Asia.
In the last years, there were some teachers who cosplayed as hitler for school activities and an audience in the city council.

And another case where swastika was spotted as a decoration in a private pool and the owner was investigated by the justice.

Owner of pool with swastika, teacher is a candidate for the city county in [Santa Catarina state] (Guess whose party?)

IIRC, Santa Catarina state is the home of most neonazi cells in brazil and/or the state that showed most growth of them in bolsonaro’s goverment, the vote for bolsonaro against lula was 70/30, so there are probably several declared nazis directly influencing those protest.

If you ask them directly if they support/agree with nazis, almost all of them will say that they are not nazis.
On the other hand, if they are asked if they agree with the politics against all non-white hetero xtians without explicitly mentioning the nazis, most will agree.
Considering the level of politics and history (i)literacy here, i guess most would associate it automatically with nazis, the usual excuse when caught doing it is that it is a gesture used for the singing of the national anthem, probably similar to usian’s pledge of allegiance, but usually with the arm lower than the nazi saute).

The salute is just an extra cruel point, because their beliefs and discourse are already awful and dangerous without it.

ETA: info about open display of nazi symbols in brazil
ETA2: add links

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Yes.

I think It is part of owning the commies trend/ How can I trigger you…

ETA links.

https://revistapesquisa.fapesp.br/en/from-feijoada-to-chucrute/

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I thought they’d figured that out… they do not like the Kurti government at all.

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As Mr. Bolsonaro didn´t explicity say He lost the election, His acolytes are leaving the roads open, but now they are camping in front of army barracks, asking for the soldiers to come out and start something they call “Federal Democratic Intervention”, a nice new name for coup d´état.

I think you’ve seen this movie years ago in the US and the ending, although violent, was pathetic.

ETA links
ETA2 A better version with the text, without typos and language errors.

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The National Coalition Party (NCP; Finnish: Kansallinen Kokoomus [ˈkɑnsɑlːinen ˈkokoːmus]; Kok.; Swedish: Samlingspartiet; Saml.) is a liberal-conservative political party in Finland.

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“Stop the steal”, “The Big Lie”… American thesis that was used to create havoc during the last presidential election echoed in Brazil. Last week a so called right wing influencer from Argentina presented, in a live session in Youtube, a crazy and flimsy cospiracy theory about how Mr. Lula took the candy from the shabby hands of Mr. Bolsonaro.

Of course it was a hoax. But it poured some alcohol on the bonfire of the people who are camping in front of army barracks, demanding a coup d’état.

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I’m gonna cross-post to the follow-up thread, too.

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Ugh… this poor woman. I hope we can get her out soon.

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I hope so. I’m worried what may happen for her (and for any Ukrainians who were kidnapped) when Russia gets booted from Ukraine.

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Me too (am worried, I mean)… and given what’s happening in Kherson today (with Russia retreating) that seems to be coming sooner rather than later.

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Maybe cross-post this in the Myanmar-thread too?

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