Assuming that this is accurate and you have no unexamined blindspots in your psyche, that rather raises the question of why you choose to align yourself politically with a party that, overall, does fear or hate or distrust foreigners, irrationally or otherwise. Heavens, it’s even in the name of the party.
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I’d prefer UKIP didn’t do that quite so often, too. Beyond that, I’m not fond of right wing politics in general. There’s a socialist anti EU party too. We never hear much about them, though. Fringe right wing parties get bigged up in the media at every general election however. UKIP are still riding on that wave, and now the referendum. After it’s all over, you’ll get back to the bankruptcy you were all coasting amusingly towards. The Tories don’t want to rock the boat, they have too many rural constituents that like that EU subsidy money too much and too many big business interests that don’t want to lose out. Me, I’m more worried about losing the protection of the EU Working Time Directive and the Human Rights Act (the directly affect my particular job and those my job protects). No doubt the Tories and UKIP aren’t. I’d rather be allied with European social democracies and their market than in thrall to the US if a bunch of fools decide we shouldn’t be in the EU.
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I did warn him. Fairly politely, I thought 
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It seems to me that those who complain about the historical inaccuracy are awfully quick to gloss over the fact that it is an adaptation of the Shakespeare plays and not based directly on real history. You can reasonably expect something slightly more historically accurate than The Muppet War of the Roses but not much more than that.
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I’d sure as shit watch the Muppets do Macbeth.
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This is a logical fallacy and you know it. He used a portrait of her, a portrait that appeared in a fictional work, but still a portrait. You may argue that this kind of portrait were “cliche” and didn’t resemble in any way the real physical appearance of the person portrayed, which is probably true, and that would be a LOGICAL way of countering the inaccuracy claim. But that’s not what happened.
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There is a version with spelling corrections, but i think this version is perfect for the situation.
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_#_historicalAccuracy _#_cygnusRepresentation
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I’d pay good money to see Muppet MacBeth.
They did do a few small Hamlet homages:
This one being my favorite:
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Obviously, lots of historical stuff back in the 20th century was cast way whiter than it would have been. There are some obvious more recent oversights, like the Avatar: the Last Airbender movie that totally doesn’t exist having white protagonists and darker-skinned antagonists.
Stuff like Gods of Egypt reads like Thor to me, where their race doesn’t actually matter because it’s a complete fantasy story (it’s like Idris Elba as Heimdall). Simultaneously, I also respect the decision of CD Projekt Red to have everybody in the Witcher games be some form of white (Slavic, Germanic, etc, but light-skinned), because their setting is so intricately tied to local mythologies, which were rather short on people from Egypt or China or Kenya. Same goes for Wizards of the Coast deciding that none of the humans on the plane of Tarkir (which pulls from historical cultures all across Asia) would be white or black.
Overall, though, yeah Hollywood has a problem with representation. It’s not an easily remedied one either. There’s historical inertia, perceptions about what’s marketable, and all sorts of other stuff that makes it hard to for people who don’t fit the mould to get the kind of experience they need to make it into the big time. And of course there are socioeconomic problems as well. More rich people can afford to pursue acting than poor people, after all. As a result, even if a director just hires on acting chops, they’ll probably end up with a disproportionately white cast anyway. I repeat, the diverse acting pool problem not going to be solved overnight. Expecting it to be is unrealistic. We should praise movies when they do manage cast diversity, even if it’s not perfect, but we also shouldn’t trash individual movies that don’t have it for that reason alone.
Where are the hordes asking for that, so insistently that you see a need to repeat your (obvious) rebuttal?
In the context of Hollywood, where over-representation of whiteness remains a problem, why not trash a movie that casts a white actor in the role of a beloved non-white character?
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Slightly (completely) O/T, but I’m impressed that this MP got such a quick handle on the constituency I used to live in. There’s a reason Robert Kilroy-Silk (the real low-rent Donald Trump?) ran for parliament there.
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I can’t believe I’m actually reading arguments about the “whiteness” of Margaret d’Anjou, and whether some actor’s complexion appropriately matches this alleged whiteness.
Why stop with complexion? What about the actor’s weight? Or height? Or her ability to properly pronounce medieval French?
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I’d watch that! Some of the groundwork has already been laid, of course, with <a href='http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/The_King’s_Breakfast’>The King’s Breakfast. (Although then these UKIP idiots might be complaining that King Rupert the Second isn’t white enough or something.
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Because UKIP so racist.
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And keep in mind, official portraits were routinely “touched up” to make the royal personage look as beautiful/handsome/valiant as was valued the local culture.
In fact, all representation of Mary and Jesus done during that time and place made them look like pale-skinned white people, too.
We can’t trust portraiture or poetic descriptions from the time as if they were non-retouched photos.
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Oh come on, the next thing you’ll be telling me is that translations of religious texts commissioned by specific rulers might not be completely accurate to the original, and were altered in such a way as to flatter the patron!
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I… I like this UKIP guy, Wonkstain. Not, like, as a person or anything, but I enjoyed this thread more than I might have.
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Can you identify the Logical Fallacy for me? Because it appears to be irrefutable fact.
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Here is how it is useful: It points out that there are bigger things to be concerned about in the world than purported “historical accuracy.”
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