Massachusetts Republican running on a platform to "exile all Jews"

Yes, I was agreeing with you not arguing.

Sure, but this person isn’t turning anything. To be clear, I live only about a mile away from her and people know she’s off her rocker. The inherent ridiculousness of this kind of story somehow gets picked up for wider consumption by a site like rawstory and this provides her more attention and legitimacy than she’d ever gather locally otherwise.

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Well, it did not come off as “agreeing” with me, so much as not paying attention to what I actually wrote… Because you just repeated what I said.

And people said the same shit about Trump, too. :woman_shrugging: We’re all getting too complacent here. And this is how we got to where we are, people dismissing the decades of racial dog whistling by the GOP in the first place…

It CAN come to blue states too, and it’s already there.

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To be fair, you have a really weird way of “agreeing.”

In response to Mindy writing:

Let’s not forget that this is also “progressive” Boston not too long ago

And

And of course, nazis have made appearances in Boston in recent years…

In what way was she giving Boston more credit than it was due???

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if the socialists can do it, so can the republicans.

This week, however, newly elected leaders of the Boston chapter of DSA introduced a resolution to expel Connolly from the organization — to be voted on at the Cambridge Community Center at 3 p.m. on July 23.

The Boston DSA leadership published a list of charges against Connolly they claim proved he crossed a “red line” and leave him out of step with the organization’s socialist principles.

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Socialists aren’t fascists, and aren’t a problem, though. I can’t stress quite enough just how we should not dismiss this woman and her rhetoric… Once again, people were laughing and dismissive when Trump ran in 2015, and look where we are now.

This language is not acceptable and we should not just dismiss it here… The GOP SHOULD make a stand other than vague disavowals, because of just what their party is doing in general.

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The people openly espousing fascist policies know exactly what they’re doing, they’re not mentally ill. As @Mindysan33 just said - they’re showing us who they are. Believe them.

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yeah, my point was: the gop could expel her. the dsa was able to vote on expelling one of their members, the gop could have done the same – should do the same.

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because “not too long ago” implies that it’s no longer a problem, I was pointing out that it’s even worse than “not too long ago” because it’s still a problem today

Trump was constantly in the media for decades and has hundreds of millions of dollars, this woman got 50 signatures and hallucinates brain cancer. As someone who’s familiar with this case of local politics it seems silly to equate the two. I think there’s some value in laughing joke candidates out of the spotlight rather than promoting them to some national spectacle. I’ll stop splitting hairs though, it’s a pointless argument to continue.

the DSA isn’t recognized by the state as a political party and does not get a ballot

yes but I live here and I KNOW this isn’t the case, as someone mentioned the local GOP doesn’t even support this candidate (and they do not have a high bar)

It’s not. This is what the far right has been doing for years now - going after local offices to push their agenda and to colonize the party from the bottom up. That made trump possible. The are very much connected.

That’s not happening now in the GOP. The party has been taken over by extremists. They pose a real threat to all of us. We laugh at our own peril.

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Ah! Thanks of clarifying! Agreed.

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i don’t know mass law well enough to know whether that makes a material difference. it does depend on the state whether a party can limit membership. for instance, while i found an article saying it is explicitly permitted in connecticut, i found nothing on mass one way or the other.

that the dsa can limit membership makes me assume that it’s possible for other political organizations as well. ( tho i grant there might be difference between officially recognized parties, and unofficial ones )

[eta] it also occurs to me, even if it turns out they are constrained in expelling her, they could have put forward an alternative gop candidate. they have more options than a simple public statement.

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See Schitts Creek GIF by CBC

I doubt they’ll do more than this… They don’t want to alienate the right wing base.

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Not to put a too fine a point on it, but this position is more concerning than a run of the mill political candidacy.

To paraphrase @Mindysan33 : if the back office openly spews this bile, you know the front office quietly agrees with it.

And all too soon the agreement won’t be quiet at all.

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there is indeed an alternative gop candidate who has actual job experience, she will win

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Understood, however, just because you don’t believe she believes the things she says doesn’t mean she doesn’t believe the things she says. It may well be an act so you won’t take her as serious. That said, if she’s in a position to win this seat, it means other people agree with her fascism and Nazism. Dismiss her and her voters at your community’s peril.

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Boston’s been racist as hell forever. One sportsing example: back in the 70s, the baseball “journalists” of Boston kept going on and on about how great Freddy Lynn was, when he was having a very mediocre season. They did so to avoid saying anything about what a genuinely fantastic season Jim Rice was having.

Lynn is white.
Rice is black.

This infuriating racist AF discrepancy was so outre it was disparaged across the country by fans and journalists alike, and it’s still discussed all these decades later.

Jim Rice was inducted into baseball’s Hall of Fame in 2009.

Freddy Lynn is not in the HoF.

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Yes, exactly my point in my OP on that… also see…

point pointing GIF by Shalita Grant

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I guess as a longtime Bostonian (non-native transplant) I’ll weigh in.

Yes, even in deep blue MA there’s a virulent racist/fascist running for office, but this is the USA, they’ve been lurking everywhere forever. Trump gave them permission to squirm out from under their slimy rocks.

As disgusted as I am about this I remain “nauseously optimistic.” The GOP is at a huge disadvantage here. In a state with 351 cities and towns there are only four Republican mayors, and the state legislature is weighed heavily towards Democrats-- 133 to 24. Republicans governors have to be moderates to win, and stay moderates to get anything done (see: Mitt Romney). The deck is stacked against her.

But she’s running for a seat on the Republican State Committee, not the state legislature (that district has been solidly DEM for decades). So she could win, but then she would be hated and shunned in the committee – the state GOP gripes that Trump is holding the party back locally, and a loudmouth weirdo is just more monkey-wrenching for their plans.

Even a victory for her means being the lowest rung on a very short and shaky ladder.

Of course those assholes will still support Trump if he’s the nominee.

But if 2016 taught me anything it’s never underestimate the power of hatred and ignorance, and that’s it’s hard to know how this bullshit will play out over years. Be vigilant.

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the GOP does not have great track record on rejecting extremists in their midst…

We’re not hearing nearly enough of that from any wing of the GOP… the ones that are have been getting shunned, not the other way around.

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