The only other possibility I can think of it that they were involved in socialist groups, but were kicked out because they hadn’t moved past their earlier rape list fantasies.
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Asshole President
Trump Named The Wrong Ohio City In Remarks On Mass Shootings
The president incorrectly invoked the city of Toledo instead of Dayton, where nine people were killed this weekend.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-dayton-toledo-mass-shootings_n_5d483b53e4b0acb57fd035fc
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Yeah, we’re taking that gaffe from our extremely sincere President (some say he maybe has the greatest attention span of all time, a lot of people have been saying that) really well here.
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Eh. It’s not like we don’t know, as Ohioans, that we’re considered to be unimportant bumpkins interchangeable with any other unimportant bumpkins. At least by oh, just about any damn politician ever, and most of the media.
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Well he actually used the words “white supremacy” finally:
“In one voice, our nation must condemn racism, bigotry and white supremacy,”
But the words ring pretty hollow at this point.
Two actual things he said that may help things:
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Making the NICS system more robust, something that he said was already put into motion earlier. Assuming this is true, it’s a good thing.
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Red flag laws - if properly crafted, could at least temporarily limit weapons access. Might reduce suicides as well.
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Not least because he spent so much of the last week accusing his critics (such as Elijah Cummings) of being racists and bigots, so his supporters can and will interpret his latest statements to mean that liberals are at least as big a part of the problem as the white nationalists.
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“Well white supremacists, they’re just a tiny feisty fringe element. But libruls? They’ve taken over! And they have to be stopped!”
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I don’t know if you were replying to me, but I’ll assume you are
I’m saying that both are true. I even gave an example of when sexism goes unchallenged in left wing groups.
A Disputes Committee document was discussed at the party conference in January 2013 about allegations of sexual assault and rape made by a much younger female member against Comrade Delta,[93] a senior party official who by then was no longer in his former post. Allegations about Delta’s behaviour had been an issue for several years within the group,[94] the first complaint against him being made in 2010. Delta has never been questioned by the police about the allegations made against him.[5]
A transcript was leaked to the Socialist Unity website shortly after the January conference, and the party’s perceived failure to adequately resolve the issue resulted in strong internal criticism.[95] One member of the disputes committee[96] had asserted that the party had “no faith in the bourgeois court system to deliver justice”.[95] Journalist Laurie Penny noted that the allegations were investigated and dismissed by friends of the accused, and that the alleged victim and her friends have been harassed by other party members,[97] while journalist John Palmer, a one-time International Socialists member, pointed to problems with the policy of democratic centralism as it had been adopted by Tony Cliff,[98] though Alex Callinicos defended the party’s version of Leninism and referred to the Delta issue as “a difficult disciplinary case” in the February issue of the party’s monthly Socialist Review magazine.[99]
In an official statement via Charlie Kimber, the party’s Central Committee, stated that the issue was an internal matter, insisting that “we strongly condemn” the release of the conference transcript and that “this case is closed”.[100] On his Lenin’s Tomb blog, Richard Seymour criticised the party’s leadership.[94] Along with another writer and (then) SWP member China Miéville and others, Seymour was involved with the internal opposition’s blog, International Socialism, established in January 2013.[101] According to Alex Callinicos: “the internal opposition are accountable to no one for these actions. They offer an unappetising lesson in what happens when power is exercised without responsibility”.[99] The Guardian reported that a woman who complained about rape in the SWP claimed she was asked a number of offensive questions about her sexual past and drinking habits. Another article in The Guardian suggested that instead of actually dealing with the rape allegation, the SWP preferred to talk about its internal organisation, thereby protecting its leadership.[102] A report by Shiv Malik and Nick Cohen published by The Guardian the following March said that further allegations of rape have been made internally against another party member.[93]
On 10 March, a special conference was held[93] in which Seymour and Miéville’s faction was defeated, and the central committee insisted the report about the complaint against Delta “that no rape had occurred” be accepted.[103] Seymour, who later accused “the leadership” of “rigged debates and gerrymandered votes”,[104] announced his resignation[105] while the newly established International Socialist Network gained more than 100 now former SWP members.[104]
Julie Sherry, a member of the Central Committee responded in The Guardian to allegations of the party’s sexism.[106] Sherry replaced a member of the Central Committee who disapproved of the handling of the case while her father was a member of the disputes committee who found the allegation of misconduct against Delta “not proven”.[104] Journalist Owen Jones speculated in January that “the era of the SWP and its kind is over”.[107]
Subsequent to the publicity surrounding the SWP’s response to this rape allegation, a number of critics on the left called those in leadership positions “rape apologists”—for instance, these allegations were publicly aired and were the basis of a walkout in protest against SWP candidates at the National Union of Students (NUS) meeting in April 2013.[108] The Socialist Workers’ Student Society has been active at many universities, but the SWSS suffered a serious decline in membership as the Comrade Delta scandal unfolded.[109]
Comrade Delta himself was reported to have resigned from the SWP in July 2013.[3] According to Alex Callinicos in June 2014, around 700 members of the SWP had resigned from the group.[110]
I’ve been on both sides of that equation before, you have my sympathy for what it is worth.
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I can’t wait for the day when an NRA endorsement has the same impact on a politician’s electoral viability as a NAMBLA endorsement.
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Make the mentally ill into scapegoats and call for a more expansive death-penalty with fewer controls.
I ask again: what are you going to do when the elections are suspended for “security reasons” that never ease, when somehow he wins a second term or he simply refuses to acknowledge a loss and demands new elections with “tighter fraud controls” that magically show him as the victor. What are you going to do if he loses and proclaims to his followers that it’s fake and a conspiracy and that they need to fight back?
Because we’ve seen this all before and know how it ends, only this time the Nazis do have nuclear arsenal.
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What am I going to do? I suppose I’ll know in the moment. I can’t imagine it’ll be pretty.
I’m still putting all my thoughts and prayers into the hope that God will call him home sooner than later. Or in whatever made him reclaiming him.
It won’t help take apart the machine he helping build, but then we seem to have a tradition of future Presidents reaping the benefits of past Presidents’ overreach, and assuming that isn’t going to eventually end up biting us in the ass, because this time it’s in the hands of the “good guys.”
I said elsewhere, the right knows it is at war. The left still longs for business as usual. I don’t know how this ends, I fear we are treading unknown territory here. Honestly, I don’t know how this can end well. What am I doing? For now, doing what I can where I am and trying to stay as informed as possible commensurate with my mental health.
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And… now we can blame the music…
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Anything will do to divert from guns, white supremacy and toxic masculinity.
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Pornogrind? Okay… In Today I really didn’t want to learn.
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At least people like you and @Pensketch are considering it. Too many are – as you said – blindly expecting business as usual. Unfortunately, they are liable to get just that: historically consistent autocratic takeover.
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i would assume if they can use this moment to crack down on the media, democrats, the left, or even find ways to remove guns from the hands of non-whites ( and only those people ), they will.
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Yep. The Neckbeard Deathcamp guy thought he was a tool, and that was apparently before he went on a shooting spree. Also, there was a This Exists video on the antifa black metal wave, but it’s no longer up, or at least I can’t find it.
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I used to like the Band Name thread but this has kind of taken some of the fun out of it 
Blaming the music - funny how often that comes around.
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