Oh man, that is AWFUL
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Kitteh chaser
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11? Isnât that 10%of the population?
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I saw that one.
SavannahâŠ
Iâve never lived anywhere else with such a high murder rate. They have an awful lot for such a small city. Heard gunfire all the time.
That one was was half a mile from where we used to live.
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You mean that itâs possible to murder people by eating at them? Maybe we can get the NRA to start shoveling that moronic line through Roger Ailes.
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And yet you donât advocate in good faith for fair markets, adequate wages and access to health care (far more important to most than the right to a stupid and dangerous toy), preferring your pose of âreasoned arguerâ. It gains you little more than a shrug, which is as it should be.
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There hasnât been a week without a mass shooting since 2003.
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Horseshit. Crimes of passion via gunplay are not so hair-splittable as that.
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Crimes of passion via jumping|poison|hanging|whatever else are so much different how? Is the perpetrator any less dead afterwards (unless screwing up and you can screw up with a gun fairly easily too)?
My father in law had an appointment near there today â fortunately, it was in the afternoon.
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Because if you want to get cute and deny the facts citing speculation about a complete separation of motivations, suicidal motivation can also be stated as a shadow of the same motivations in murder-suicide payback scenarios.
Itâs a death where the tool is a gun and needs no further justification for inclusion.
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If you want to prove a premade point, any statistical illusionism will be good enough.
Intentionally self-inflicted harm should not be counted under accidents, whether it is a gun, a rope, or said icy stairs. For murder-suicide, count the amount of murdered under the accidents, exclude the suicide. Otherwise you get all sorts of weird artefacts in the data.
Me and mine are just fine. Thank you very much for the concern. The place is pretty near where my older sister lives, and in fact she had taken our elderly parents and our younger sister with Down Syndrome there several times in recent years, so sheâs quite familiar with the place.
At times like this, I tend to bury myself in work and avoid the news, waiting to get a handle on things until there seems to be something reasonably solid to grasp. I remember I did that on 9/11 as well: after my roommates woke me up to show me what was on the news that day, after half an hour of that I headed in to work to get lots of stuff done, and I was frustrated beyond belief that the studio decided to close all the offices that day. The last thing I wanted to do was dwell on the news. Thatâs kind of what happens to me on days like this. I donât want to reflect, or deal with shock. I want to roll up my sleeves and get something done. Anything remotely useful, even if not particularly helpful for the issue at hand. But even when I really want to help and just donât know what to do, I canât stand doing nothing.
Todayâs event seems even less sane than usual, but I canât bear to contemplate it yet. I see the stained and well-worn carpet beneath the wheelchair wheels in the pictures from yesterdayâs party, and all I can think of are my little sister and my chair-bound dad.
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Not my burden of proof. Youâre the one spinning the idea that a shooting of passion that only results in one death has no relation to other shootings of passion, citing nothing and no reasoning. You assert the difference only, and it falls apart immediately under the most casual examination.
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More like 20 seconds, and thatâs for an intensively trained professional soldier. The British army used to boast about how they could fire three shots in a minute.
There is a major difference. When the victimâs death is the victimâs own intent, you cannot count it as an accident as it was under the victimâs control, at its will - the victim was not at the wrong place at the wrong time, but, by its intent, at the precisely right place/time.
But if you want to artificially inflate the number because guns-baaaad, feel free to if it makes you happy. It wonât change anything anyway.
Wow, three shooters all with mental health issues. Are you sure they werenât just fucking assholes with unbelievably easy access to powerful weapons?
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Looks like theyâve identified them now, and theyâre confirming the story about a dispute at the party, then leaving and coming back to shoot.
I canât reconcile that with the idea of AK-47s, pipe bombs and âassault gearâ.
It all seems very bizarre. And horrible.
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