Timing is very important! And I, for one, fully intend to post some snark to the Pirelli Calendar thread at 11:09am on December 6th.
I donât get this: https://cdck-file-uploads-global.s3.dualstack.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/boingboing/original/3X/f/0/f0681cd8959163cb66da0556823a4184c938084d.jpg
What are you trying to accomplish?
Yes, you could argue it is antiquated. I donât think it could be repealed any time soon.
You donât even live in AmericaâŚ
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You wouldnât understand. Itâs a non-ammosexual thing.
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Didnât you say you were leaving?
The tendency to use hysteria instead of rationality is global. Brussels is infested with it, too.
The US is a useful testbed to watch.
Sorry, the base hypocrisy was too much for me. I see you lurking and âlikingâ all the pro-firearm posts though.
I did go to the gym, work out while watching people being chased with rifles on national television, and come back though.
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In what way is that-- actually, no. Forget it. Iâm done. When your first response is to compare the common-sense legislation passed in response to the OKC bombing to the ridiculously disproportionate clusterfuck that was our response to 9/11, or the fucking Japanese internment camps, youâre not interested in having a constructive conversation.
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Donât be hatinâ. We ammosexuals are just born this wayâŚ
I think that US people would be more likely to seek and get mental health care if attitudes about it were better. Unlike with most medical conditions, there seems to be a strong tendency here to completely identify the individual with their diagnosis. This then tends to stigmatize people and cause lots of problems, so I find it unsurprising that many who could use help tend to avoid it.
If I were to try discredit a person because they were diagnosed with influenza ten years ago, people would assume that I had the problem. Why? The virus doesnât leave! Itâs part of who you are now! But discrediting a person for a diagnosis of bipolar disorder or some such thing is trivial. It functions more like describing the person than the illness. And it condemns mental health practice for everybody to operate under the presumption that - if these are real illnesses - that they cannot be cured.
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Exactly my point. With respect to risk from guns, you are much more likely to be shot by your own gun than by anyone elseâs (suicide and accidents, primarily - someone using your own gun against you is pretty rare). Unless you take your own life, or are a hunter or member of an armed gang, death by gunfire doesnât rate as a significant risk for ordinary civilians.
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Thereâs a difference. White paramilitary assholes kill fewer minorities generallyâŚ
I donât think its ACCESS to mental health care, but more importantly removing the stigma of seeking mental health care. Its something that sadly will take multiple generations to fix.
Iâm not sure heâs comparing these reactions as much a contrasting them in terms of efficacy and sensibility. I donât think you two are as far apart on this you may think. The TSA clusterfuck and WW2 internment camps start from the premise that all of us (or an arbitrary subset of all of us) are terrorists/the-enemy until proven otherwise. Restricting sales of bomb-making stuff to those that have a professional need to blow shit up is just common sense with little downside that I can see. Edit: Maybe that restriction didnât actually happen. See post further down by Mister 44.
Yes. And we created the TSA after a handful of radical Muslims crashed 3 planes. I donât think every action warrants a reaction. Definately not an over-reaction.
We also put over 100,000 Japanese in camps after Pearl Harbor. Anything to make us safer, right?
Americans overreact and politicians invest the least effort for the appearance of security. Nothing new here.
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We just disagree with what is âcommon senseâ.
After that shooting at an army (or was it Marine) recruitment center, people went out and âstood guardâ at their local recruitment areas. Others suggested we arm the soldiers/Marines inside. I said the best thing to do was nothing. Why take drastic measures over something that has happened one time ever?
What, specifically, did we do after OKC that made us safer? According to wikipedia, basically nothing. Only 2 states passed laws needing ID for fertilizer. We did pass the âAntiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996â. I feel safer already.
I guess now that I have to show my ID to buy CHILDRENâS SUDAFED, I donât live in one of the top meth producing cities in the US.
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Great, so now that mass shootings in the US outnumber days in the year thus far, maybe we could have SOME kind of reaction other than âMeh, whatâreya gonna do?â
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How about we drop the term âcommon senseâ because its being used as a linguistic shield to imply âyour opinion is not common senseâ more than there is an actual desire to hear proposals.
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Actually I said analyze the cause. Are some of those crime related? Murder-suicides? Going âpostalâ at work? Lone nut who just goes unhinged? Foreign or domestic terrorist?
Then also look at how they got their guns. If someone with a clean record bought one at a store, passing a NICS check, what other reasonable measures could you enact to prevent this? How would you stop someone who circumvented the system by a straw purchase, theft, or black market?
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This is true, but politics exists because we donât always have the means, will or time to address a situation properly.
A cheap shot, I know, but sometimes you have to stop the bleeding from the knife wound if you want to have any hope of tending to the patients hangnail.
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